Council Meeting 6-4-26
The council adopted Ordinance 11-2026 establishing city salary ranges and removed Ordinance 10 from tonight's adoption to be redrafted. The meeting approved several consent items including a small federal grant insertion, placement of a clothing bin, the bill list, and minutes, and heard updates on road/traffic projects, public safety initiatives, upcoming community events, and website/budget posting issues raised by residents.
Key points
Ordinance 11-2026 (city salary ranges) was finally adopted after a roll call vote.1:39 ↗
Ordinance item number 10 was pulled from adoption because numeric errors were found and will be redrafted and reintroduced at the next meeting.0:08 ↗
Engineer and DOT met about making the McDonald's/Mill Road intersection safer; state and county are open to options including a raised median.21:31 ↗
Consent agenda included insertion of $8,644 from the federal body armor fund into the municipal budget and authorization to submit a NJDOT Local Aid grant for Crest View Avenue resurfacing and traffic calming.3:15 ↗
Raised crosswalk safety project bid opening scheduled for June 25 (possible award at July meeting); Shore Road pre-construction meeting set for June 17.23:02 ↗
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Topics with timestamps
Ordinance adoption
1:39Ordinance 11-2026 establishing salary ranges was opened for public comment, had final reading, and was adopted by roll call.
Ordinance pulled for revision
0:08Item number 10 was removed from tonight's ordinances because numbers were incorrect; it will be amended and reintroduced at the next meeting.
Consent agenda approvals
3:15Council approved consent items including a $8,644 federal body armor revenue insertion/grant action, placement of a clothing bin, and a bill list totaling $1,441,488.95.
Road and traffic projects
21:31DOT meeting discussed McDonald's/Mill Road safety improvements (including a possible raised median); Shore Road pre-construction meeting set for June 17; several local paving projects completed.
Public safety initiatives
6:20Public safety committee discussed hotel concerns, the firehouse drone program, and recommended researching a 'no‑knock' (no-solicitation) registry and solicitation sticker program; police noted limits on banning solicitation.
Community events & schedules
13:55Community Affairs reported on a successful Memorial Day parade, announced a July 4 home/business decorating contest and other summer events; council meetings were rescheduled (June 18→June 25 and July 2→July 9).
Decisions / votes
- 1:39Adopted Ordinance 11-2026 establishing salary ranges for the city.
- 0:08Removed Ordinance item number 10 from tonight's adoption and directed it be redrafted and reintroduced at the next meeting.
- 3:15Approved insertion of $8,644 from the federal body armor fund into the 2026 municipal budget and authorized grant application/execution with NJDOT for Crest View Avenue resurfacing and traffic calming improvements.
- 3:15Authorized placement of a clothing bin by Turnkey Enterprises LLC at 600 Pittney Road.
- 3:15Approved the consent agenda and bill list totaling $1,441,488.95.
- 4:49Approved minutes (close session minutes and budget meeting minutes) as to form and content, with one abstention noted for budget minutes by a council member not present.
- 15:27Rescheduled council meetings: June 18 moved to June 25, and July 2 moved to July 9 (affecting committee meeting schedules as noted).
Public comment
Resident reported the newly adopted budget document was hard to find on the city's website (noted mobile site differences); asked that the budget be made accessible and/or emailed.
Resident commended police for catching individuals vandalizing lights on the Pike and praised investments in public safety and recent local economic development.
Resident noted the website's mobile view differs from desktop and supported the council's plan to replace the website for better transparency and accessibility.
Transcript (6,194 words)
to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Good evening everybody. Welcome to the June 4th council meeting. Roll call please. >> Clark >> here. >> Evans >> here. >> Here. Mike >> here. >> Parker here. Sykes. >> He is absent. He may be arriving late, but uh count him as absent for that. >> Mr. D. >> Yes. This is to advise a certain advanced notice has been given to the date, time, location, and to the extent known the agenda of this meeting in accordance with the provisions of the open public meeting act. And notice of this meeting has been posted prominently at the bulletin board in the municipal complex lobby on the city's website and communicated through the newspaper designated by the governing body. This is to further advise that this meeting is being recorded electronically and can be viewed on the city's website at obsecanj.gov. All right. 2026 ordinances for adoption. Um, we are going to remove item number 10 from the agenda. Um, John, do you want to make a statement? >> Uh, well, sure. I just know that in looking at it prior to adopting, you guys notice some things that need to be revised. So, what I'm recommending that you do is pull it from the ordinances for adoption tonight, go back and amend it, and then reintroduce at the next available meeting. >> Sounds good. For those that uh um are are unaware, this this was found just today. Um essentially impossible to find the difference unless you had two side by side. But, um a couple of the numbers are off. So um because of that, John feels it's substantial enough to remove from the agenda, reddraft it, and reintroduce it. So that's what we will do at the next meeting. All right. Ordinance 2026 for adoption 11, establishing salary ranges for the city of Epsein. Do I hear a motion for the second reading of ordinance 11 2026? >> Motion. Second >> roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. Bartenda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, yes. >> Yes. Ordinance 11-2026, establishing salary ranges for the city of Obsecin. May I hear a motion to open the meeting to the public for comment or discussion on this ordinance only? >> Make a motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. Would anybody from the public like to speak on this item only? May I hear a motion to close the meeting to the public? >> Close the public portion. >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. May I hear a motion for the final reading and adoption of ordinance 11-2026? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. Martinda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, yes. >> D Rose, >> yes. Ordinance 11, 2026, establishing the salary arranges for the city of EPS. This ordinance has been heard and is finally approved. Consent agenda. All matters listed under item consent agenda are considered to be routine by the city council and will be enacted in one motion in the form listed. There will be no separate discussion of these items. If discussion is desired, that item will be removed from the consent agenda and discussed separately. 102. approving the insertion of a special item of revenue into the 2026 municipal budget to allow for the receipt of $8,644 from the federal body armor fund authorizing the submission of a grant application and the execution of a grant contract with the New Jersey Department of Transportation under the local aid infrastructure fund 2026 Crest View Avenue resurfacing and traffic calming improvements. 104 authorizing the placement of a clothing bin by Turnkey Enterprises LLC on the property located at 600 Pittney Road in Obsec for consent items only. Do I hear a motion to open the meeting to the public? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. Would anybody from the public like to speak on consent agenda items only? >> May I hear a motion to move the consent agenda? >> Motion to close the public. Oh, do I hear a motion to close the meeting to the public? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Opposed. May I hear a motion to move the consent agenda? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Artenda, >> yes. >> White, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. Sir Rose, >> yes. Approval of bill list 1,441,488.95. May I hear a motion to accept the bill list? Motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. Sarenda, >> yes. >> White, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Yes. Approval of the minutes to close session as to form and content only from 35206 and budget meeting minutes 32626. >> I love it. Roll call, please. >> Clark. >> Yes. >> Evans. >> What's the question? No, you said that the date was wrong. It was 45, but it's 35. >> Yeah. >> Evan, >> yes. >> Latunda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> D Rose, >> uh, yes to close session. No to abstain to the budget meeting minutes as I wasn't there. All right, council reports. Nick, we'll start with you. Uh, we have not met since our last uh, meeting. Our next uh, code enforcement meeting will be on June 16th at 4 p.m. here at city hall. All are welcome. Perfect. Councilman >> public safety met on Monday. Um we addressed um some things going on at the firehouse. Um some concerns at our hotels on the White Horse Pike. Chief Tally from the fire department wanted us to thank Joe's farm market for their donations of flowers at the um firehouse. um chief talked about our drone program and the things they're doing with that and um we just addressed some residents concerns as well. In the meantime, um I'm sure we've all seen uh the post on Facebook about the solicitation and people coming to their houses. The day after our public safety meeting, um, someone brought to our business administrator's attention about a no knock registry ordinance, which we do not have. Um, and in fact, our ordinance about getting permits to solicit is very minimal. Um, it doesn't even have um a requirement of wearing your permit when soliciting. You must get one, but you don't there's nothing in there about wearing it or uniform restrictions with that. with this no knock registry and I found ordinances from several towns. Jessica referred me some from her own town um and another um basically it requires it allows residents to get on a no knock registry um and when someone comes to get their permit to solicit they are given the no knock registry. Additionally, we give um official uh no solution uh solicitation stickers to these residents. Um cuz I know some people have unofficial stickers at their house. Um and this allows um our residents to um not be bothered if they don't want to. um it could allow us to find those who still solicit when there is no solicitation um stickers and um or um if they are not getting their permit. So um it's just something I looked into. It's something that I recommend that we uh look into passing. >> Can you give it to code enforcement? >> Um so it's just something that Jessica looked into. We talked to Tommy about it. Um, so as public safety, I thought it was something that we should really look into. Several towns in New Jersey have done it. Um, some local towns, including Hamilton Township, I believe, have it. So, um, that was just on my radar and something I wanted to report today. Chief, do you have anything else for public safety? >> We have it done already. So, um, we just have to take a review of it. Uh, I think it's a great idea. We did a little research on it. The Supreme Court upheld that you cannot stop it altogether. So just to be clear to the residents that we cannot ban solicitation um because it would be uh a violation of people's rights, commercial rights in specific. So uh I think it's a great idea and uh we just have to maybe give it to John to make sure that it all looks good and get it done and get it done. >> Even better. >> That was quick. code enforcement says okay Alex you guys want the paperwork next >> that's a good idea I'm good with it Mr. President, if Councilwoman is not, I'd just like to make a quick comment. >> Absolutely. >> Um I'd like to thank our our public safety um our police, our fire, our EMT, um during these times of of the summer coming and um I don't know, just people uh the climate that's going on. So, I really I really appreciate everybody's hard work that they do and I wish them um I wish them a safe summer and um you know that that's all I just want there's some incidents that happened. I don't need to necessarily bring them up and I I appreciate their hard work and and I I want them to stay safe. Thank you. >> Absolutely. Do you have anything else council? Well, I think all of our hearts are heavy for our neighboring town of Lang City after the incident the other day and I would just um want everybody to keep all police in their thoughts and prayers and hope that they stay safe. They they do a big job and we appreciate all of them. >> Absolutely. >> Just to clarify, Lieutenant Hank and the team was presented to them this morning and and already fixed that uh put that started putting that ordinance together. Um and then the only other thing I have as far as public safety, if you don't mind me speaking, >> of course. um the boat ramp, right? So, we've been pretty lucky so far with with weather. It hasn't been too hot and the bugs haven't really arrived here too heavily yet. Um please keep in mind for the Boers, like try to have your stuff together and organized before you get to the ramp as opposed to getting down there and you have to get your life vests out of your vehicle and put them on the boat and your lunch and all your other items to go out onto the boat. um utili you do that stuff at home. Put everything on your boat before you get there so that we can keep the tempers and opinions uh at a low rate down there. Uh it'll stop us from having to come down there and uh mitigate or or you know kind of put our conflict resolution hats on and and um ease the uh pain of backing up the boat ramp. Uh, one of the things you can also do is is is what we were looking at is is if you pull out of the ramp, pull pull up the road a little bit or pull off to the side somewhere else. You don't have to be in the middle of the roadway because believe it or not down there that's not just a whole parking area. The road bends in front of uh and and turns into fourth ats. So when you pull your trailers and your vehicles out and you want to take everything out of the boat and put it in your car, you're actually blocking traffic. So, just a little reminder everybody can keep in mind and um it'll make everybody's uh voting experience a little better. >> You've been there far too many times. Thanks, Chief. Anything else, Councilman? >> No. >> Uh Council Light, we'll just continue with you then. >> Okay. Thank you. Um public works. We met on the uh the 1st at 5:00. We went over a couple uh we went over some of the road projects. I'll let the engineer kind of expand on that. I'll let the engineer. We're actually uh council members um police department. We met on Tuesday at 10:30 at McDonald's. We went over some concerns. Um I'll let the engineer kind of kind of tighten everything up with that. Uh the police um chief and his staff actually weighed in on some of those. The mayor and some of our council members that were able to come um was was there as well as an administrator. Um, we uh talked about Southshore Road project again with the the engineer can update us on that and then we meet on the 7th of July at 5:00. The public is welcome. Thank you. >> Excellent. Councilman Clark, >> finance has not met since the last meeting. We just got done the budget and our next goal is to focus on economic development and we're looking to schedule with the businesses on New Jersey Avenue to see what we as a council can do to help assist them and help grow their business while we meet with a new venture with the ACA. >> Excellent. Councilwoman Evans. >> Um yes, community affairs um met this evening at 5:00. We discussed um the Memorial Day parade and uh what a success it was. Our grand marshal was Walt Young. A special thank you to the police department for leading the way and holding off traffic which I know is uh a feat in itself because the parade is pretty long and it's kind of uh gets congested there at Southshore Road but uh once again you guys did a great job. Um the uh speeches of course by yourself uh council president at the uh park. Thank you to all the people that um uh gave the speeches and um donated the uh reefs. As always, um we have um just announced that we're going to have Abseek's Fourth of July home and business decorating contest. Um we just posted it on Facebook this evening thanks to Christine. Um it'll be a competition uh you know throughout Epsein decorate your home. The competition uh will end on July 1st and we will announce our winner on July 3rd. Um check for the updates on that. Art Alliance part pot is Wednesday, June 10th. The first concert in the park, I'll um touch on it for Mike cuz he's not here, is uh June 21st. Joey D Oldies. We um also we were told there's going to be a first responder breakfast that is in the works. Um so look for that. Also our 911 memorial. Um it'll be the 25th year anniversary. So look for uh more details on that. And they will be selling t-shirts and stickers. So hopefully everybody will help at um their foundation. >> Excellent. Thank you. >> Can I just add that the PTO's citywide yard sale is this Saturday and Sunday as well. >> Excellent. Um the only thing I have in terms of committee report will just be general. Uh we will be uh Carrie, it's more for you uh for tomorrow, but we will be moving the June 18th meeting to June 25th and the July 2nd meeting to July 9th. That will help us space out better for the summer and ensure that liquor licenses are complete and uh so on and so forth. So, excellent. >> Can I change? Yes. Can you move by finance meetings at 25th as well then? >> Well, so I you took the words of my mouth. Are there any committee meetings on those dates uh that would like moved as well? Just let Carrie know right now. >> So, finance >> and community affairs, please. >> Community affairs would be July finance. >> Okay. So, >> that helps you. June 25th. >> June 25th for finance. Correct. >> And you cancelled July and August, >> correct? No reason for July and August for finance, but we're going to go the 25th >> and community affairs will be July 9th. 9th at 5. >> Yes. >> Instead of the Thank you. Perfect. And all times will stay the same. Got it. >> Right, Linda? >> Yes. >> Okay, that looks good. Perfect. >> All right. Uh, perfect. Um, all right then, Mr. Mayor. >> I am going to seed my time because I would also like to hear the engineers update as well. Council. >> Okay. Well, since that sounds like a a doozy, I'll switch to the administrator report first. I don't know where >> the city of Alaskan may homeless task force has a summer food drive going on. We are collecting through June 18th. There's a box located in city hall lobby. It's in support of church by the base together we can program. We're accepting donations of non-p perishable food in jars cans. Um we have recommendations for canned sauces, soups, beans, fruits, meat, peanut butter, and probably water. >> Excellent. Um, speaking of that, I'm sorry. You go ahead. >> Uh, this is going to sound like a quote from Councilman Light from last year. Uh, there is an Eagle Scout who's reached out to myself and Councilwoman Parker about trying to do a project and I believe the project is going to try and do something in terms of places where you can place food, things like that. Uh, he's still flushing it out. I believe he was to come see Councilman Sykes at a park and playgrounds meeting. >> Correct. in the middle of >> June. >> June. >> So I think it's 16. >> And this this is this is local kids. >> Oh, excellent. >> Uh the last thing I apologize before we go to the engineer report uh I wanted to include was congratulate uh Calabria on 18 years of service in the city of Epcin today. Um all right, engineer. >> Oh, Mike. Uh welcome. Would you go to our committee report? Thank you for having I apologize for running late by by their job. Um committee report is just a couple overlaps from last meeting. Um the Turner's Cove sign is in the works. It's being drafted. You know, there was an accident. Unfortunately, I took the sign out. Um we have that trying to get back up and and placed back in its original spot as soon as possible. Once the draft is finished, we'll have it um officially signed off on and then once they make it, we'll have public works hang it back up. Um huge crews of public works. The fields have been amazing. The baseball field has been immaculate for especially the last couple weekends and we've had some pretty big tournaments. This weekend we have a very large tournament. We have 8U um our AU tournaments going to run uh Saturday, Sunday, and possibly into Monday with the championship game. Um ASAC and public works have been amazing to get things going and organize that. Uh it's always run top-notch. So my son plays at you, so I'm looking forward to it this weekend. Should be pretty cool. Um, couple things that we're trying to do with the uh the possible shed that's up there, the the one that soccer uses, uh, the brick building and the one down by um, the green works. We're going to try and maybe get those painted either by public works or volunteers depending on the timeline and availability. But, you know, just try and freshen some things up for like, you know, mid midsummer to early fall. Get those painted cuz they could use a fresh coat. Um, there's one more thing. Uh, somebody asked about the baseball fields, about new dirt and things like that. And I checked with Lloyd, they drag it every single season. They drag it every spring. Um, they turn the soil over. So, just so the public knows, like, you know, public works again doing a great job trying to keep everything topnotch. As well as with ASAC, they work hand in hand. So, appreciate it. That's all. >> Excellent. Can I add something real quick? Is uh I'd like to acknowledge Bill Anita offer is Bill's power washing. So he comes and I and I'm sorry I I didn't say the sooner, but he comes at least two if not three times a year to Veterans Park with his either himself or his family and they powerwash the park for it to look the way it does. Doesn't charge anything. I mean, I had to force money on him a couple years ago to buy him dinner. But I mean, he and and he's so humble. I never even knew I've known him a long time that he served in the Navy. So, he's just a quiet, humble person. He comes out and he donates his time to give back to the community and uh kudos to Bill. I mean, and his family, his daughter's out there and uh that the park little by little in between the school and public work. It's it's it's impeccable. >> Excellent. >> So, thank you. >> Thanks, Steve. >> All right. All right. Drum roll. Engineers report, please. >> Thank you, Council President. Uh yes, I'll start with the the McDonald's update. Um, we did meet with the, uh, New Jersey Department of Transportation at the McDonald site off of Mill and and the Pike. uh various members of the council, the administrator, the police, and uh myself met with them this week to discuss options to make the uh entrance exit off of Mil Road safer and uh try to um eliminate the the the left turning movement out of McDonald's and onto Mil Road, which we know causes uh various different issues with traffic. Um the the members of the DOT were uh you know on board with that. Um you know they were not against that option. Uh what we talked about was potentially installing a raised median along the center of the road there. And um originally we were told that wasn't an option, but it does sound like now I guess things have changed and they're uh they're open to that option. So it was a good meeting. Um and uh at the end of the meeting we we basically ended it by saying we were going to uh regroup and loop in the county the county engineers office. Um that section of Mo Road is a county road. So we do have to involve this the county as well as the state. So, I followed up with the county to try to set up a meeting with them and then we'll then uh follow that up with a meeting with all parties uh the county, the city, and the state to discuss how to actually move this forward to a real solution. So, uh you know, we'll we'll continue to update everybody as that progresses. Um, Shore Road, our Shore Road project, the pre-construction meeting is now scheduled for June 17th at 10:00 a.m. So, it's great news. Uh, that's moving forward. Um, that meeting will be held at the at the county offices and, um, I will be in attendance and, um, you know, hopefully the outcome of that meeting is is is a set start date for construction. So, in terms of that project, I just want to take a second to thank uh the county administrator, Jerry Del Ross, who was very instrumental in trying to push this along for us. And the reason I bring it up now is I saw today that uh he retired after 50 years of service. So, congratulations to him and thank you for the few years we've been here. He's been pretty receptive to whatever we've needed. >> Thank you. >> Great. Thank you for that information. So, yeah, hopefully that gets kicked off in July. Um and then on to our active road projects. Now um as of today all paving is completed uh for Woodcrest Court, Burning Tree, uh Pennsylvania at the intersection of Pittney and Del Avenue. So all paving is complete for those projects. Uh we'll be completing our punch list review next week and closing them out shortly. I did drive down Burning Tree this morning. I haven't checked out the other ones yet, but Burning Tree I do think came out very nice. And then uh the pedestrian crosswalk safety improvements project, the raised crosswalk project is advertised in the Press Atlantic City today and um our bid opening is set for June 25th at 11:00 a.m. and we hope to award at the July meeting. Um they're looking into shifting that back now that we've changed meetings. Uh maybe we can issue an addendum to move the bid opening back potentially and a word at the June meeting. Uh it is possible. I'll look into that and see. >> Oh, the extra week you're saying? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um, and then we're scheduled for survey for Franklin Boulevard next week. And I know at public works this meeting this week, we did discuss a couple different options for the Highland Boulevard pedestrian safety improvements project. Um, couple options uh such as like where to install the sidewalk exactly. Um, and then we're still kicking that around. I I don't know if the the council would like to go into any more detail about that, but uh I'll let you have a different meeting for that one. And um that >> I just uh I'd like to add that uh in our meeting with DOT is uh the police chief and his staff had asked New Jersey DOT why we had their attention and their ears. Uh there was quite a few of them. if they could look at some of the additional concerns that we had which are council president mentioned uh Sashro Road the uh whatever I'm going to be funny but like the 18 second time limit that had heading uh north um that was one of them and the the chief's and his staff's concerns were some of the depressions on route 30 that are actually uh very tragic so um it was a very good meeting but that's something that I wanted to you know was instrumental having the police and uh the chief and the staff weighing in on some of the concerns why we had their attention. Thank you, >> Councilman. You took the words out of my mouth. My comment was going to be almost the exact same thing that you know it's not every day that the state is willing to send six employees down to to meet with the municipality. Um, so I want to congratulate or or commend uh engineering Jessica uh and council for, you know, being steadfast and demanding that they see it with their own eyes because it's one of those issues that's hard to explain, but then when you see it, it's a no-brainer. Literally, the one gentleman saw it happen and what the first five five minutes, Captain Maser was there as well, and he clearly got it. Um, but you stole the words of our mouth. I was going to say it was a very productive meeting because we all were able to pile on and get all our DOT questions asked and uh face to face. So, I think it was well worth the time and uh I commend everybody in this room for uh being steadfast and ensuring we got that meeting. >> They did so genuinely >> good emails, Nick. Good emails. >> Genuinely interested. >> Thank you for being annoying, Nick. We got an email for 3 months about this. like they were listening concerns and they want to find a way to help us. It's just that the the start needs to come because it's county road from county engineers. >> And as far as the other things, they already emailed me that they were already looking into those. >> I got I got an email about the timing of the light too. So they they sent the right folks. It was very productive meeting. >> Um does anybody else have anything before I move to public? >> Okay. May I hear a motion to open the meeting to the public? >> Motion. >> Second. All in favor? >> I opposed. Would anybody from the public like to come up and speak tonight? >> You can just state your name and address, sir. >> I'm Eric Harrington, 17 Stony Brook Drive, apartment 24. Okay. Um I was here last uh two weeks ago for the budget presentation and budget vote. Um I saw the the presentation. I noticed it's been uploaded now. The council meeting packet from two weeks ago said that the budget was on the website. Where on the website was it? >> The budget is on the website. It should be under the finance department. >> Okay. So, I looked at budgets and I saw userfriendly budgets and I only saw 2017 to 2025. >> If you'd like at the end of the meeting, I can take your email address and email you a link to it. >> Oh, that would be fine. And I'm just wondering why wasn't it with the other ones if it's if it's not I I I didn't see it. I didn't see it two weeks ago. I didn't see it today. >> It was uploaded. >> I believe it's on the front the the presentation we put I think it's on the front page of the website actually. >> I saw the presentation it and it was actually uploaded the day after I think the last meeting. >> But um that so that was good but I did I didn't see the budget. I looked at like last year I looked at that that was a very lengthy document and the user friendly was as well but I kept I kept I kept looking and looking. >> All right. Well, I mean let us take a look at this to confirm whether it's there or not. I mean obviously that would be the first thing we're going to do to make sure that it's >> present for you to find. >> Okay. I was scrolling on my phone. I was kind of in disbelief which is why I didn't see anything last week. Well, one of the issues that we have with our website and it's why we're actively working to change our website is that the userfriendly version of the website on a mobile device is not the same as it is on a computer. >> So, that may be the issue. I'm trying to look for it now, but I will take your information at the end of the meeting and then I can reach out to you directly. >> Can we just Can we email him a budget? >> Well, I mean I mean I I would just say the thing is I think he's looking for transparency. He's looking for it to be on the website. You go on a computer, though. I think you go on the computer or you go on a phone. >> Admittedly, I went on my phone and my tablet. I didn't pull it up on a full desktop. >> I think that's the issue, right, Jess? >> I think that is I mean, that's a huge problem with our website and that's why we're looking. >> Yeah, I can't find it on my mobile. So, yeah, but we should we should have it there. >> Okay. Well, yeah, just in the future and it looks like, you know, even years in the future, somebody wants to see. So, I appreciate that. >> Yeah. Hopefully by this time next year, we will have a new website and it will be much easier to find anything. >> Okay. I appreciate it. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you for bringing. I would have never known if you didn't bring it up, sir. Thank you. >> Okay. Absolutely. >> Shot it. >> Hi, Sandy Hickerson 210 up on Avenue. >> How are you? >> Um, it's on my phone. It came right up when I I was like, "Oh, let me check." And it it came right up like you said. It's on right on the very first. >> So that's the presentation. That's the presentation. He's looking for the actual >> actual budget. Yeah. The full >> where it should. >> Thank you, Sandy. >> No, you're you're good, Sandy. >> Sorry. >> Sir, name and address, please. Ron Finland, 242 Koolage Avenue, Epseek. We got to work on getting these things to be a little more sherp and uh friendly around here. Uh, short person friendly. >> Short person friendly at the council. Nice uh nice touch. You can see over the wall here. Um, couple things. First off, wanted to just commend the chief and I don't know if it came up earlier before I got here, but there was a pretty cool story that they caught whoever it was that was actually vandalizing lights along the Pike heading in and out of Atlantic City. And I know many people get the question and we all deal with the challenges of Atlantic City and all the competition they face. People are always asking about lighting going in and out of the city and it's kind of a crazy thing. We're already ready to blame Atlantic City Electric and it turns out you got some folks that are up to no good. So, I want to commend the chief and his guys on that one. It kind of one of the examples why I've vindicated the investments you guys have made in public safety. When you look at the budget presentation, everything else you guys have done over the last couple years, why you need more guys out on the street doing that stuff, especially when you're dealing with pretty much an arrest of day looking at the police plotters and everything else. And mayor's doing a good job with all the homeless task force stuff. It seems like at least anecdotally all the pan handling that you had to deal with last year is down a bit. You know, just driving in felt like every day outside of McDonald's you had folks doing that and you know maybe it'll pick back up in summer but it seems like it's going in the right direction there. I know the state of New Jersey certainly doesn't make it easy on uh on anybody with any of the things that the state does these days. The only other thing I wanted to bring up was just economic development seems to be going really well. Uh, I was thinking earlier over the last year, how many different businesses have opened up, you go by right around the corner here and instead of a failing bank that's just crumbling and falling apart, you got Jersey Cow there. There's a line out there at 10:00 at night. I think you probably do away with property taxes all together if you were charging a dollar and ice cream cone. It's a joke. You don't need to actually do it. But, uh, it's really going well there. It seems like there's at least one business, if not two, opening up every single quarter over the last 18 months. So, want to commend the mayor and council for the job they're doing there and uh and keep going. It's why I think you see over the last several months, you haven't had as many people here uh breaking your balls about things as you may have had in the past cuz they acknowledge the great job you guys are are doing. SO, >> thank you. That was awesome. >> Is there anybody else from the public that like to speak? That is a first for me, by the way. Nick, I don't know if you ever had to remind somebody of language. >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely. >> Thank you for my first uh >> probably. Would anybody else in the public like to speak? >> Do I hear a motion to close the meeting to the public? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Opposed. May I hear a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> Motion. Motion. Second. >> All in favor? >> Opposed. Thank you everybody for coming inside.