Council Meeting 9-18-2025
Council introduced Ordinance 12-2025 to raise off-duty police detail rates in two $5 steps (no city funds) and laid it over for public hearing on Oct 2. The council approved a consent agenda (including accepting a volunteer firefighter, a county GIS shared service, a PTO yard sale permit, and a $15,000 increase for vehicle maintenance) and discussed several infrastructure and community items like upcoming road/drainage projects and community events.
Key points
Ordinance 12-2025 introduced to raise off-duty police detail rates in a two-step $5 increase (funded by contractors, not city taxpayers).1:34 ↗
Council approved the consent agenda, which included accepting volunteer firefighter Tevin Watson and authorizing a $15,000 increase to the vehicle maintenance/repairs resolution.3:04 ↗
Engineer reported significant outside funding opportunities (including millions from the New Jersey Eye Bank) for drainage upgrades in the Estates area.16:51 ↗
Multiple community events and recognitions were highlighted: Creekfest (upcoming), Field of Dreams movie in the park, dedication of John Gorman Way, and a donated new roof for the Charlie Norris Fieldhouse.6:07 ↗
A public safety request for a stop sign at New York Avenue and 15th Street was raised and the council member said it can be placed on the next agenda for introduction.29:06 ↗
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Topics with timestamps
Off-duty police detail rate change
1:34Ordinance 12-2025 was introduced to raise off-duty/detail pay in two $5 steps (one this year, one in 2026) to match neighboring towns; the increase is paid by contracting entities, not the city budget.
Consent agenda approvals
3:04Council moved and approved the consent agenda, which included accepting a volunteer firefighter, a shared GIS services agreement with Atlantic County, authorization for a citywide PTO yard sale, and adding $15,000 to vehicle maintenance/repairs.
Budget and finance outlook
6:07Finance committee reviewed the year's outlook and is beginning budget planning for 2026 with changes starting in October to improve fiscal position.
Parks, events, and community recognition
6:07Council discussed upcoming Creekfest, the Field of Dreams movie in the park, the dedication of John Gorman Way, and a donated roof for the Charlie Norris Fieldhouse.
Fourth Avenue subdivision and drainage work
12:18Planning board moved forward on a two-house subdivision on 4th Avenue; the city's prior drainage improvements there were coordinated to benefit the development.
Website, communications, and homeless task force
18:25Public raised concerns about the city's website/mobile friendliness and event visibility; council acknowledged website limitations and said upgrades are planned; homeless task force is growing and coordinating service events.
Decisions / votes
- 3:04Ordinance 12-2025 (amending off-duty/detail rates) introduced for first reading and laid over; public hearing and final reading set for October 2, 2025.
- 3:04Consent agenda approved (included accepting volunteer firefighter Tevin Watson).
- 3:04Shared service agreement with Atlantic County for GIS services authorized (consent agenda).
- 3:04Permission granted for the Epsican Parent Teacher Organization to hold a citywide yard sale (consent agenda).
- 3:04Resolution 84-2025 increased by $15,000 for vehicle maintenance and repairs (consent agenda).
- 4:35Bill list approved by roll call.
- 4:35Minutes of the prior regular meeting approved.
- 29:06Request to place a stop sign at New York Avenue and 15th Street will be placed on the next agenda for introduction.
Public comment
Resident criticized the city's website for not being mobile-friendly and hard to find event info; suggested improving mobile site and linking events to social media and other local groups.
Clarification that Field of Dreams is a private nonprofit that operates on its own property; resident offered sign-language interpretation services for film events.
Update on the homeless task force: meetings have grown (including neighboring township participation), and recent service events at Church by the Bay connected residents to food, clothing, and social services with more events planned.
Resident reported problems posting community affairs content to a popular local Facebook group (posts ending up pending) and urged better cross-posting and flyer distribution for seniors.
Request for a stop sign at the bike path/road crossing (New York Ave and 15th St) due to sightline and speed issues with kids and motorized bikes; council agreed to add to next agenda.
Transcript (5,454 words)
I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> here. >> Evans here. Laura, >> absent. Light >> here. >> Parker here. Sykes >> here. >> D Rose >> here. This is to advise that certain advanced notice has been given to the date, time, location, and to the extent known the agenda of this meeting in accordance with the provision of the open public meeting act. And notice of this meeting has been posted prominently at the bulletin board in the municipal complex lobby on the city's website and communicated through the newspaper designated by the governing body. This is to further advise that this meeting that this meeting is being recorded electronically and can be viewed on the city's website at mseennj.gov. Regular meeting agenda 2025 ordinance for introduction. First reading for introduction only. Ordinance 12-2025 amending the code of the city of Epseant chapter 69 article 569-35 offduty assignments. May I hear a motion? >> Motion. >> Second. Discussion please. discussion. >> I did second so fast I didn't get it out >> discussion please anybody we're increasing >> somebody should explain what it is >> a detail rate for officers >> detail so you want to explain it or you want >> just putting the detail rate >> yeah making it comparable to neighboring towns so our officers were doing detail rates um other departments were coming in making more than them and so it made it comparable and um more desirable to do a detail >> right now. Right now in the city of Epsein oftentimes and this is not just an obsecin thing it's everywhere more than a neighboring police department will do details and if an obsecin cop and a Galloway cop are doing the exact same detail at the exact same time the Galloway cop makes more money than I'm seeing. This just brings it so detail rate is comparable to other towns. >> It's going to be a two-step process. We're going to do five I think an increase of $5 this year and $5 starting in 2026. a two-step process and the money does not come from the city. It comes and Eddie could probably give you where it comes from >> comes from the contractor that requires a detail they pay for. So no funds from the >> city those other municipalities are paying at a higher rate. >> Do any council members have any questions? Roll call, please. Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Soros, >> yes. This ordinance will be posted, laid over, and published according to law. A public hearing, a second, and a final reading will be held on October 2nd, 2025. >> Consent agenda. All matters listed under item consent agenda are considered to be routine by the city council and will be enacted by one mo one motion in form listed. There will be no separate discussion of these items. If discussion is desired, that item will be removed from the consent agenda and will be discussed separately. 165 accepting a volunteer firefighter into the Epsican City Fire Department, namely Tevin Watson. 169 166 authorizing a shared service agreement with the Count of Atlantic for >> Yeah, should be county of Atlantic. It says count. >> If it was the count, >> it says count on my paper. County of Atlantic for GIS services. 167 allowing the Epsicanin Parent Teacher Organization to hold a citywide yard sale. 168 authorizing the increase of resolution 84-2025 by $15,000 for vehicle maintenance and repairs. Do I hear a motion to open this meeting to the public for agenda items only? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Opposed? Would anybody from the public like to come up and speak on agenda items only? May I hear a motion to close the meeting to the public? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. >> May I hear a motion to move the consent agenda? >> Motion. >> Second. Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> White, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Yes. Approval of the bill list, $1,91,24418. May I hear a motion to accept the bill list? >> Motion. >> Second. Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> White, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Yes. Approval of the minutes. Regular meeting minutes, 84205. May I hear a motion to accept the minutes? >> Motion, >> second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> White, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Yes. Council committee reports. We will start with Councilman Le. >> Thank you, Mr. President. We haven't met. We won't meet until the uh the 6th of October at five o'clock. But there's two couple things that I would like to mention is like to to thank our public works as I always do, but specifically at the 911 committee, excuse me, the 911 ceremony and how nice the properties, all you know, the park and everything looks. Um they do a great job. It was a great event as well as thanking our staff, all of our staff, our police, fire, um, ambulance. And then I'd like to just take a, uh, a second acknowledge one of our, um, one of our city supporters, uh, my boss, my friend. He passed last weekend. He's supports a lot of a lot of functions we do here in Abseen in the surrounding communities, children, you know, his whole family. Um they they're very generous. So just his name's Mike Presto. So keep his family in your prayers. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilman. >> Councilman. >> Thanks, Council President. So, we just had a finance meeting before this and we went over our outlook for the year so far and where we project us heading towards next year and a few changes we can make starting in October. We're really going to focus on our budget for 2026 and how we can make things a little bit better and get us in a better position going forward. >> Thank you, sir. Councilwoman, >> um thank you. Um so, just wanted to report that uh Creekfest is the up and coming this Sunday. Um we are full steam ahead. We're looking for a great turnout. the weather is in our favor and uh like to have everybody come out and support it. >> Thank you, Councilman. >> Uh we have public safety has not met since our last meeting. Um but I would like to thank uh our police, fire department, and our um ambulance squad for all their help um with this coming Sunday's event. Um they're all on board and been very helpful in the planning, and I know they're going to be very helpful on Sunday um to make it happen and make it safe. And thank you to the police department for a safe start to the school year. Chief, do you have anything to add? >> I do. Uh, in reference to fest, we're there to make sure that everybody has a good time. So, I say this all the time, but they're officy. just be asking everyone to be responsible and have a good time officer with the field of dreams for the home movie in the park featuring the movie. So please come down. >> Thanks Chief Councilman. Good >> councilman Sykes. >> Thank you President. Uh we met on Tuesday. Um kind of a lot of things that just happened in parks and wreck and everything over the last few uh days, weeks. Um just recently we had uh John Gorman way was dedicated to on the field of dreams right there that street in honor of John who did you know so much for the city in the past. So um that was this past Saturday. So it was a great turnout. Um I know the mayor spoke there a lot of other people some heartfelt um speeches were given and and rightfully so. Um we were able to get a new roof put onto the uh Charlie Norris Fieldhouse. Um, Veterans Roofing came in and was able to donate everything and do that for the Blue Devils in the community. So, uh, we just want to thank them again. Really great, uh, job. We got a blue roof. Looks fantastic. Uh, we had a issue with the bench in, uh, Heritage Park here being under a tree that was having some issues. Um, again, thank you to Lloyd and public works. They were able to move that bench in one piece, do it, you know, in a timely fashion. Um there was five women that were in on that bench in honor of their dear friend. So they were very appreciative of that. Um we're still trying to find and work on a permanent structure in terms of bathrooms for um park over here for concerts in the park. So that was a big discussion that we had. We got a little bit of movement. Um obviously things have to be further discussed as we go down that line. Uh that's about it. >> Thank you, Councilman. And the roof looks amazing. I've heard a lot of great comments about it. Um, all I have uh September is suicide prevention month. So, um, I know suicide has impacted multiple members uh, in this room. So, um, I'm calling on the community to make sure that, you know, call in your friends, call on your neighbors, and make sure everybody's uh, doing all right. Uh, mayor, >> thank you, sir. Um just a few quick things uh to piggyback on Councilman Sykes's um comment about John Gorman way on that Saturday. There was two events that honored the memory of people who were very strong in our community. There was an ALS walk um that raised a lot of money for ALS research where a team of our residents went and walked in honor of Victoria Hunter. Um, and that was really special to see so many people from this community go to Ocean City to honor one of their great citizens who passed away a couple years ago from ALS. And then to fast forward a couple hours later, we show up to dedicate this road um to John and kind of didn't know what we expected. Maybe a hundred people. There was well over 200 people there. Again, it's this is why I love this town. This is why I I will speak on behalf of all of you. Sorry. And myself. This is why we do what we do. Um this community is is worth every little gray hair that we get from doing this job. And I love this community. Um and and I was really really honored that we were able to have two great events in one day for for two wonderful people. Um to echo council president Rose suicide has impacted a lot of people's lives. Uh I I say this all the time just to say if you need to talk talk. My number's on the website. You need to talk talk to me. I've I lived through it and I I don't want any other families or friends to live through something like that as well. And lastly, and I will ask Councilwoman Parker or I don't know if maybe we could have Mr. Ser come up in the public session, the I was unable to attend the planning board meeting where some things were decided at the planning board meeting. Would either of you like to give an update so all of council's on the same page as to what's happening that Fourth Avenue? >> Um there was an owner of a 4th Avenue property that is um came over a year ago, I would say 13 months ago, almost 14 months ago, um with plans. We asked them to go out um revise the plans with their professionals. They did that. They did it to our approval for a subdivision. They're putting two houses on the property. um is also where some of our city um drain um work was done. So that was not something they had to do, but it was actually good timing um to get that project done before they start um their work. Um everybody was on board with uh we did have some concerned citizens, but in that neighborhood uh but I think they were pretty most of them were pretty satisfied with what they came back with and planning board moved forward to the next step which is not like they're breaking ground next week but they're moving forward and um we were pleased to see what they came up with. I don't know if Greg has anything I don't you know in so many in in quick terms. >> Yeah. >> I just the only reason I ask is that you know with different autonomous boards we have a member of council and myself we sit on it and you guys if you can't make it to the meetings I just wanted to make sure that we're all in the know of what's going on on the planet board even though we don't have a say but you should in case somebody comes up and asks. Uh, and unfortunately I wasn't able to be there. Thank you, Counciloman Parker. And what? Just kidding. I'm done. Thank you. >> Clerk's report, please. >> These are the monthly reports for August. The construction office is $8,23. The court was $12,78462. And the tax office was 5 million 911,6857 and the clerk's office was $6,939. >> Thank you. And the only thing I ask is could we add a business administrator line to this now? Please. Thank you. Uh engineer report, please. >> Go to the administrator first. >> Let's go to the engineer first. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh quick comment on the 4th Avenue subdivision. So, Councilwoman Parker mentioned it was good timing. um with that subdivision coming through with the drainage work. That was all um deliberate. Um I've mentioned this before in in some of my reports. Um we we want to be developer friendly. We want to be business friendly. We want to invite people to invest in the city. And this is an example of where we have a budget for infrastructure in the city. And we take a look at where we get the biggest bang for our buck. We knew we had some, you know, subdivisions coming in, some residential uh properties interested on Fourth Avenue. So through the public works committee, we decided that would be a good place to spend some money and and get the drainage in line there. That way when people decide to come live there, they don't have to deal with some of the drainage issues. So um some good proactive planning on part of the city. Um speaking of flooding, Shore Road, um we're still working out the wrinkles on those plans. Uh there is no one who wants this project to go out to bid more than the people that have been staring at the plans in my office for the last three years. Um but we're almost there and uh I can't wait till I can tell you we're going out to bid. So, we're getting really close. Um, just a few other updates on some upcoming projects. The budget took a little longer this year, so a little bit behind where we would typically be on a typical year, but we do have a lot of great projects in the works. A lot of them are being funded, almost all of them are being funded by outside funding sources. The uh crosswalk sign on New Jersey and Highland, we have a contractor on board. They're just waiting to get their road opening permit from the county. That should happen in the next two to three weeks. It's only about a week's worth of work, so you'll see that out there in the next month. That work should be complete. Our 2025 road program is going out to bid. Uh the Delaware Avenue project, which is being funded through a DOT grant, is going out to bid at the same time. So, we should get some good bid activity with two projects kind of out on the street at the same time. We usually get some more competition that way. Um so, that will be good. The city hall lobby improvements, we did receive bids on those. I'm working with our CFO to just sort out uh the different funding sources. So, hopefully we'll have an update on that in the next meeting or so. Our race crosswalk project which is being paid for through a DOT grant is just about ready to go up to DOT for their authorization to go out to bid. We're just working out some of the last details on that project and then that'll be moving forward. And then I mentioned this earlier in the year, there are some significant funding opportunities uh for us through the New Jersey Eye Bank. Um, and you're going to start to see some items on your upcoming agendas related to that funding for work in the estates area to upgrade the drainage um, lines that run through some of those easements back there. So, that's just a coming attraction. Very significant funding, millions of dollars. So, exciting for us and um, once we get there, I'll give a little more detail. >> Sounds good. Thanks, Ed. Yep, Jessica. We have the retirement of one of our longtime employees uh effective September the 30th. So we wish him well um in his retirement and looking forward to a new official. >> Excellent. Sounds good. >> First report to the point quick. Love it. All right. Do I hear a motion to open this meeting to the public? >> Motion. >> Second. All in favor? I >> opposed. Would anybody from the public like to come up and speak? >> I have to ask name and address, please. >> 311 East Wyoming Avenue, New Jersey. Okay. So, um I have some things that I want to bring to light. Oh. Can you just put just your name for the record too? >> Allison Maxfield. >> So I wanted to find out when the um because I was really interested in doing the homeless thing and um I went on the city's calendar. I didn't see anything. So, I didn't know when it was or anything like that. And then I was just looking on it to find the Field of Dreams and it says in the uh Facebook, I mean, it says on the Atlantic at McSin City Council, if you want to know what the events are, you actually have to watch these videos and the last one had 10 views. So, I I don't think there's I think you guys are all doing and women are doing an incredible job, but I don't think that there's information out there um or linkage. I also was kind of like, okay, um, where do I go with the Obssein City Council to find out about the sports and athletics? I I know I just touched upon it somewhere, um, but I wasn't sure. So, I just wanted to say that there's a great um, website that's that you could I think the easiest thing to do with the events calendar because it's actually on the phone. So the only way to really look at the events calendar if you wanted to was to um be on a computer and everyone uses their phones nowadays. So it's smart to have um a website conversion to be able to use on the phone. It's pretty easy to do and pretty inexpensive. But I think that it would get more people involved in coming out to you know events and stuff. The other thing is um >> yeah Field of Dreams. I wanted to know what Field of Dreams was because and you're in charge of it, right? >> No, Field of Dreams is a private organization. >> Okay, great. But it's being housed in the Obsan Field of Dreams Park, right? >> Well, the Obsan Field of Dreams, they own that as well. >> Yeah, they pay. >> Oh, okay. >> It's it's an established nonprofit organization that that has that land and utilizes that space and they're a private organization. >> Okay. >> If you Google it, their schedule usually comes right up on the Absey Field Dreams. If you put in Absse Field Dreams in Google, it should come up. >> Yeah. wouldn't be linked to the city website, but the other ones I'm taking note of. Yeah. >> Okay. Well, the reason why I want to say this is I have an interpreter, somebody who wants to watch movies and actually do sign language interpretation. So, maybe that could be something that you all could um utilize over the summer for the film stuff. >> Um I'll contact them because he's interested in doing that film. And >> we have two kids at Field of Dreams that would benefit >> would benefit. That's awesome. Yeah, I used to work there. That was my first job in social work. So, um, see what else I wanted to say. >> And by we, again, it's a separate organization. I just volunteer at it. >> Yeah, that's >> I said we and then all the city. >> The website is a hot button issue with us. Um, we're in the process of trying to upgrade to make it more uh user friendly, but when it comes to government websites, they're extremely expensive and we had a very tight year with our budget this year. So, we're still actually actually I had a conversation with our new administrator this morning about some difficulties that we are having with the website, but we are being as proactive as possible. Oh, yeah. To get the website and to and you would never believe how difficult it is to do an official city Facebook page because a lot of people Facebook would be so much easier than the website. Most people get most of their events and information from Facebook. Um, we do have a site, it is run by our community affairs team. It's called up community affairs. >> Okay. >> They post a lot about the Field of Dreams, the Creek Fest, like events that are upcoming in town. So if you go on Facebook and give that a like, you'll start to populate your feed with more abseor oriented events that are happening. Got it. >> And then um we're we're working on the website. Okay. >> And as of right now, the homeless task force, we did not meet last month because of back to school. >> Um and as as we're kind of flushing it out, it's not really a public meeting. The way the the resolution was written, it's only four residents. >> Okay. can go right now. We're hoping as we grow, which has grown unbelievably, right? I mean, the the the Gow Township joining up, we we doubled the meeting size. We actually couldn't go in our conference room. We had to come in here to have the last meeting. So, as we start to really feel our way around, but some great things have come out of it. the the event at the church by the bay last month where the Abs police department myself uh we were there was serving food making g the pastor lgala getting clothes for people and then had social services and he's really excited because that was a huge success and his next one I don't know the date in October >> in October he's already got like two or three more social service entities who want to show up to help get services they need permanent housing. >> Yeah, that's great. >> Somewhere safe to raise their children. >> Awesome. So, So, um, that's great. So, I just want to go back to the events calendar real quick. So, the most populated, um, uh, Facebook group is actually Yeah, I'm from Epseekant. >> So, what I suggest you do is to link um any that >> well, it's kind of a weird site and people like to play stuff. >> I was unfortunately blocked from there and I was the one that was sharing all of the community affairs stuff to fromse. didn't realize that all of my posts were going into a pending um area until everybody's like, "Why isn't Creekfest being posted on Yam?" Like, "Why don't we know about Creekfest?" And I'm like, "I've been posting about this since July." Right. >> I went on there to look for my posts and they're all in a pending place. >> Ah, gotcha. >> Um, so why I can't share community affairs things to yam from Seekin is beyond me. I am in contact with the admin of EP um page, but I am trying to work on it. I had no problem doing it before this summer, but I am having trouble posting on that. And I had no idea that these things were not going through until one of my posts about the OE 2011 hats were was deleted. And that's when I went in to see why it was deleted and found all these pending posts that were ne never went through. >> Gotcha. >> Um so we do try to post there. The other great resources um that Jessica has worked on um really hard this year was the Gazette. Two uh >> two editions of the Gazette went out. Um linked on the page, too. And a lot of our community events are on in the gazette and things that are going on in town. >> Okay. Do you have like um a paper copy of events that are at the public library um that like flyers of any kind? >> Um the gazette I mean we could print one out >> on the table right outside. >> Okay, cool. You guys are awesome. >> One of the biggest issues we have with the website right now is that it's not mobile friendly. >> So if you go on your computer, you can see all the available easily, but if you use your cell phone or a tablet, it doesn't come up. Um, but we are working forward uh as Mayor Maroon said to update our website going forward so it's mobile friendly and updated and you know easy for us to share information. >> Another another great resource is the police department has a great Facebook page as well. They share a lot of our events. They're a great Facebook page to follow and they're and their website is very user friendly. >> Yeah. You know, I don't really think like the mobile um is such a big deal. I think it's more important to get out the flyers to places because a lot a lot of the seniors get involved in stuff. >> The senior center gets notified. >> Oh, they do. Okay. All right. You guys rock. I'm done. >> I wish it was that easy, but it's not. >> Anybody else from the public like to speak? >> Name and address, sir? >> I have to ask. 15th Street. I would just like to uh make a request that a stop sign be uh installed at the end of the bike path on New York Avenue and 15th Street. In the past 18 months or so, a stop a three-way stop sign has been installed at the other end of the bike path where the wagon wheel is for the uh baseball fields. Obviously, the city saw a at that uh approach coming from the parks to put a three-way there. >> Where is it Bob? >> So New York at 15. So when you're coming down the So what's happening is these kids are all coming down the bike path. The way the bike path slopes there's really no slowing down and all the kids come from school and everything and the people on New York are making a left on the 15th and there's no stop sign there in New York which is where obviously where I live. So no one stops there. So, if you make that left, and we'll use Trevor as an example, a new driver coming out there, they can't see these kids coming down that hill and how fast they're coming. That's why we were against some of the development projects earlier that they want to put on that side. We probably I think Eddie and I spoke about this before about looking at a stop sign on that corner. So, I think that's what you're talking about, right? I'm pretty >> It's not a question of if >> it's when >> it's gonna happen. Especially on especially when people parked their cars there for the football games because you can't see around and there's trees on that one corner that hang over the stop like you can't see both sides there. I know uh I know we spoke about this before, but that's it's more of a line. It's more of a sight thing because you cannot see anyone coming down that bike path. And they're kids, right? So they're coming down the bike path. The bike path is sloped. I mean I don't >> not even the bicycle. >> All right. It's motorized. >> They're coming down from Chelsea Avenue >> and they're heading up to the football field on that path. >> So you want it on the path, not on a road. No, >> he wants one on the path that they ignore. >> He wants on the corner where New York is >> corner of New York Avenue >> and 15th to make a left >> and 15th. It's a dead end almost right for take a left. >> Your house, Bob. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And I'm gonna tell you that it's not it's not the kids coming from that direction. It's the cars and the kids coming from Chelsea Road. >> Yeah, I see what I see it now. >> They're going on these things 25, 30 miles an hour. And when somebody comes around that corner, they can't see them. And they're not looking for them. >> They're not looking for a car coming down New York. They're just looking at the bike path like these like this on these motorized mopeds or bicycles, whatever they are. And >> and this is this is all times of the day, but I know we had spoke earlier when when it's school when school lets out or there's events there that are taking place at 3:00. >> Are we able to make this? I >> was going to say we can make this real simple. I can tell you right now that that's market. So if you want to put it on the next agenda for introduction. >> Perfect. >> Done. >> Thank you. >> Absolutely. It's been the easiest thing we've ever >> got in right at the last second. >> Thank you, Mr. W. >> I was advised that you might be calling me and then I saw your truck pull up. I'm like, well, >> Ed, can I ask a quick question? Can we not ask questions now? >> No. >> Um, would anybody else in the public like to speak? May I hear a motion to close the meeting to the public? >> I make a motion that Alex can say what he wants to say. >> There's a reason. Yes, we're waiting. May I hear a motion to close the meeting? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Opposed. >> May I hear a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Thank you everybody for coming tonight. Ed