Council Meeting 8-7-2025
Council held a regular meeting including a Comcast public hearing, adoption of several ordinances (capital bond, salary ranges, hotel/motel regs, solicitation, traffic/parking rules, and others), and addition of two volunteer firefighters to the fire department. Council discussed homeless-task-force efforts and a community outreach event at Church by the Bay, and took consent-agenda actions including small grant insertion and various authorizations.
Key points
Comcast presented a franchise renewal update and said it sees no deployment gaps in the city but asked residents to report any unserved locations.1:34 ↗
Council adopted a $1 million 2025 bond ordinance to fund various capital improvements.7:37 ↗
Ordinance amending hotel/motel registration passed despite a pastor's request to carve out an exception for current city residents (solicitor warned of constitutional issues).10:38 ↗
Council read into the record and approved adding two volunteer firefighters so they can attend fire academy starting soon.22:50 ↗
Mayor and council emphasized upcoming homeless outreach at Church by the Bay on Aug 21 with multiple partner agencies attending.42:38 ↗
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Topics with timestamps
Comcast franchise hearing
1:34Comcast reviewed its franchise renewal process, network coverage, and federal/state funding applications and invited public feedback about any unserved locations.
2025 bond ordinance
7:37Council adopted Ordinance 05-2025 appropriating $1,000,000 and authorizing $952,000 in bonds/notes for 2025 capital improvements.
Hotel/motel registration ordinance
10:38Ordinance amending hotel/motel registration (072025) was adopted; a public pastor asked for an exception for current residents but the solicitor said that would likely be unconstitutional.
Volunteer firefighters added
22:50Two local volunteers were added to the fire department so they can attend the fire academy beginning in a few weeks.
Homeless task force & outreach event
42:38Council and partners (including neighboring township and prosecutor's office) are holding an outreach event Aug 21 at Church by the Bay offering services for people experiencing homelessness.
Consent agenda and budget prep
24:21Multiple routine items were approved on consent (permits, equipment, vendor services, small grant insertion of $2,100) and finance committee is starting 2026 budget planning.
Decisions / votes
- 7:37Adopted Ordinance 05-2025: $1,000,000 bond ordinance authorizing $952,000 in bonds/notes for 2025 capital improvements.
- 9:08Adopted Ordinance 06-2025 establishing city employee salary ranges.
- 16:47Adopted Ordinance 07-2025 amending hotel and motel registration (chapter 216).
- 18:19Adopted Ordinance 08-2025 prohibiting aggressive solicitation (chapter 258).
- 19:49Adopted Ordinance 09-2025 regulating parking of rolloff containers along roadways (chapter 330).
- 19:49Adopted Ordinance 10-2025 prohibiting commercial vehicles in residential zones (chapter 270).
- 21:19Adopted Ordinance 11-2025 amending chapter 254 (peace and good order).
- 22:50Accepted two volunteer firefighters (added to consent agenda and approved so they may attend the fire academy).
Public comment
Pastor Judy asked the council to add an exception to the hotel/motel registration ordinance allowing current city residents to stay in local hotels; solicitor explained such an exception would likely raise constitutional problems.
Resident reported erratic/short green light timing at the Mill Road/Route 30 intersection (westbound) causing traffic/backups and asked for county/state review of signal timing.
Resident proposed renewed traffic-safety signage campaign (e.g., 'Drive like your kids live here') and suggested selling/redistributing signs to residents.
Resident urged expansion/support for local food banks and community food resources, suggested partnering with churches, VFWs, and regional food bank and proposed a council-supported food drive.
Resident suggested development of youth/adult recreational or arts programming (rec center/arts space) and asked council to connect with local arts groups and churches to host programs.
Transcript (11,239 words)
2025 regular epic city council meeting. Uh mayor, can you lead us in the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation indivisible and justice for all. This is to advise a certain advanced notice has been given to the date, time, location, and to the extent known the agenda of this meeting in accordance with the provision of the open public meeting act and notice of this meeting has been posted permanently at the bulletin board in the municipal complex lobby on the city's website and communicated through the newspaper designated by the governing body. This is to further advise that this meeting is being recorded electronically and can be viewed on the city's website at obseenj.gov. All right. Uh, we'll kick it off with a public hearing uh on behalf of Comcast. >> Do roll. >> Oh, roll call, please. First. >> Oh, boy. >> Clark. >> Just got excited. >> Evans >> here. >> Laranda >> here. >> Light >> here. >> Parker >> here. >> Here. >> Doros >> here. >> All right. Comcast, would you like to come up and introduce yourself, sir? Thank you for the introduction, council president. >> My name is Fred Deandri. I'm the senior director of government affairs for Comcast in New Jersey. I'm here tonight in further pursuance of Comcast's franchise agreement with the city of Abek and this is our license to operate the town. Allows us to build our network uh maintain it and operate uh in in the city. I want to start by thanking the mayor and city council holding this hearing. I know it was scheduled a year ago and I wasn't able to make that that meeting and agree to reschedule it and and move this process forward. Um the hearing is required by state statute and regulations and provides an opportunity for members of the public to present their views on Comcast application. Um the franchise is again it's Comcast licensed to serve the city and build, repair and operate in cities right away. We started this process on February 26 of 2019. Uh our legal entity, Comcast of South Jersey LLC, um sent written notice to the city indicating our intention to seek renewal of this franchise. U and then on April 6th of 2021, we filed an application renewal renewal of municipal consent city. We also provided the map of our network showing where we provide service throughout the city. do not believe there are any deployment gaps in the city, but if you're aware of any residents who are unserved, uh please let us know. We did file applications with the state for their funding that were due three, four weeks ago. Now, this is federal dollars that are dispersed through NIA. State New Jersey received over $200 million and put it out to bid for cable operators and other ISPs to um provide service to those who are unserved. So, we have filed for that throughout South Jersey, Atlanta County, uh it's more pronounced that you might expect in county, but there are pockets throughout the county, places like the township county. So, I don't think that's the case here, but if you do hear of any unserved locations, please let me know. No action is required tonight from city council. This is again just an opportunity for both the governing body and Comcast to hear from public community feedback. Express the hearing can be incorporated dialogue future meetings and baked into uh the new resolution for ordinance which will act as our contract. Once that contract is finalized, we'll petition public utilities and they grant the renewal of our license. Um I know you have the packed agenda tonight, but I just want to a few comments about about the company for any uh folks who are unfamiliar with Comcast. We're founded in the US 1963. We're now a global media technology company headquarters in Philadelphia. Comcastinity is now the largest internet service provider in the US and Comcast Business which is our commercial branding is leader in business technology. The network utilized by Exfinity and Comcast business is the result of years of investment and innovation that continues to get smarter, faster and more reliable. Delivers next generation broadband experience to millions of homes and businesses to support the increasing demands for customers today and in the future. Our network was built to provide flexibility and reliability so that we can quickly respond to spikes or shifts in usage. We saw this during the pandemic. We were able to meet capacity demand. Other providers in the state had challenges. There were you know hearings held by the but manage those. We're also using AI and machine learning to optimize our internet delivery, making our networking faster and more reliable down to the household. Locally, Comcast operates 20 cable systems in New Jersey, and provides cable service to more than 340 municipalities. More than two and a half million New Jersey homes and businesses have access to Comcast business products and services. We're proud to serve the city forward to renewing our agreement so we can continue providing service in the future. If the governing body has any questions about operations network. Does anybody like to ask a question? >> Well, I wanted to thank you uh personally because whenever the city has needed information from Comcast, you you've delivered very quickly. So, we're very appreciative of the service you personally provide. Uh, on the government affairs side, um, the only email I got, I'll just forward to you. I got it as I was coming in here today. Um, I guess there's a poll that's now a dead poll and the only utility left on it is Comcast. I'll forward the email and I literally got it on the way in here when they saw that there was a Comcast hearing. But, uh, otherwise, very appreciative of your responsive time for this. Thank you. Thank you. >> Excellent. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. >> All right. Regular meeting agenda 2025 ordinance is for adoption. 05 bond ordinance providing for various 2025 capital improvements appropriating $1 million therefore and authorizing the issuance of $952,000 bonds or notes of the city to finance the cost thereof. Do I hear a motion for the second reading of this ordinance 052025? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. Yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Laranda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Yes. Ordinance 052025, bond ordinance providing for various 2025 capital improvements by and in the city of Epsein appropriating $1 million therefore and authorizing the issuance of $952,000 bonds or notes of the city of the city of two finance part of the cost thereof. May I hear a motion to open the meeting to the public for comment or discussion of this ordinance? >> Motion second. >> All in favor? >> Opposed. >> Would anybody from the public like to speak to this specific ordinance? >> May I hear a motion to close the public portion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Opposed. >> May I hear a motion for the final reading and adoption of ordinance 052025? Motion second. Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Maritanda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Yes. This ordinance has been heard and is finally approved. >> Establishing uh Ordinance 06, establishing salary ranges for the city of Epicin. Do I hear a motion for the second reading of this ordinance? 6 2025 >> motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Laratunda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Dro, >> yes. Ordinance 06, 2025, establishing salary ranges for the city of Epsein. May I hear a motion to open this meeting to the public for comment or discussion of the ordinance? >> Motion. Second. >> All in favor? I opposed. >> Would anybody from the public like to speak on this specific ordinance? May I hear a motion to close the public portion? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. >> May I hear a motion for the final reading and adoption of ordinance 062025? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Saratunda, >> yes. >> White, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Zoros, >> yes. This ordinance has been heard and is finally approved. 0 ordinance 07 amending ordinance 12-2023 amending chapter 216 of the city of epigen code governing hotel and motel registration do I hear a motion for the second reading of this ordinance 07205 motion >> second >> roll call please >> Clark >> yes >> Evans >> yes >> light >> yes >> Parker >> yes >> d ro >> yes ordinance 07205 amending ordinance number 12-2023 amending chapter 216 of the city of Epse code governing hotel and motel registrations. May I hear a motion to open this meeting to the public for comment or discussion of the ordinance? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. Would anybody from the public like to speak on this ordinance? >> You just provide your name and address. >> Hello. Can you hear me? Yes, it's Judy. I'm the pastor of Presbyterian Church and my address is 221 West Church Street. I would like to um propose a tweak or amendment. I'm not sure the quote what I may Oh, can you hear me? I'm sorry. Since this bill is being proposed to keep other cities, counties, and entities from dumping people here in our hotels, could we not make an exception for current Epic residents? For example, their ID would have on. Um, I'm guessing it would go in section C to say to say this except as otherwise set forth in this article, no or motel guest. Here's the change. Other than one identification identifies them as a current resident of FC may occupy blah blah blah blah. >> No, thank you, Pastor Judy. I took I followed up after your email with the city solicitor, John, and he provided an update to us. John, would you like to explain to Pastor Judy? >> So, to answer your question, I mean, the governing body can always do whatever it wants. But if we were to incorporate your proposed language there, I'm going to you're going to run into constitutional issues because you you can't unduly discriminate against out oftowners for residents of your municipality except for a very very minute small set of circumstances of which this wouldn't be incorporated into. Um it without getting too into the weeds, it essentially creates an issue with the commerce clause. Um and if it were challenged, I can guarantee you you wouldn't be successful in having it uphill. That's fine. I think it is ironic since the whole thing is to discriminate against outsiders. But I understand why. I totally get it. I get it. It's not right. It's not fair what's happening to us. But I I was just trying to make a little >> just it's so hard for people to have housing right now. And sometimes a motel is the only way that they can do it. So, but I just that was what I came up with to try to make it a little bit more humane. But I understand about the law. >> I I I be honest with you, Pastor Judy. I forwarded the email and I said I'm on board like and then when he tells I can't let the city get sued too so I have to balance both sides. Um >> but it does make sense. That said um right before I walked in here I I did re read uh the email you had sent to follow up >> and you and I can speak offline and and discuss those specific situations. Just as a secondary, first of all, thank you very much for spending your time with our appreciate what we can do for anybody in a specific IC instances reach out to us because between ourselves, our solicitor chief and that's the whole point of that task for We have people who will connect anyone of the specific nature of what you're speaking of. I'm trying to speak vaguely sound a little >> this is not to punish the homeless. This is they'll hold other entities accountable, but we're still going to take care of our city and the people in this city. That's a commitment everybody sitting here has made and it's a commitment that we all intend to follow through on as long as we're sitting here. Thank you. >> She probably knows better than anybody's ever talk. So, >> Pastor G, I'll follow up with you. >> I think the other thing we need to realize here is is this is not against anybody homeless. Um, it's it's a matter of all our hotels and motel and none of them are set up with a kitchenet or or anything to provide somebody with living quarters. It's just a night stay. And in fact, at one time, some of our hotels They had restaurants built within. They had continental breakfastes and everything else. None of that none of those things are provided by any of our hotels to my knowledge at this current time, especially restaurants. So, um, for people to stay longterm, it puts it's not really humane for them to be stuck in in a motel or hotel room without those other things. And um you know ultimately you're putting not only people there living at risk if there's a lot of people in one hotel but our our first responders including our ambulance, fire and police. >> I understand chief and I heard all that at the at the at the task force and that's why I didn't try to fight the bill. I understand that and I just know that forever if it was a choice between being on the street or being in a hotel with just whatever. I understand. So, the point well taken. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Judy. You've been very understanding for this process and I know where your heart is and we've talked a couple times about this and I know it's difficult for you to hear. Um, but I appreciate you taking the time to understand where we're at with this. >> Thanks for coming. >> Would anybody else from the public like to speak on this matter? May I hear a motion to close the public portion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Opposed. May I hear a motion for the final reading and adoption of ordinance 07205? >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Claritanda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Yes. This ordinance has been heard and is finally approved. >> What I was going to say is there are always opportunities as we grow and as we gain new resources to amend ordinances. Anybody that has ever been to a council meeting, we're either creating an ordinance or amending an ordinance. So, as we grow and as we um gain extra resources, we are always open to to suggestions like Pastor Judy. At this time, we're taking these measures. 08 amending chapter 258 of the code of the city of Epsein establishing prohibitions against aggressive solicitation within the city of >> Do I hear a motion for the second reading of the ordinance? >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. Evans, >> yes. >> Claritanda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Zos, >> yes. Ordinance 08, 2022, amending chapter 258 of the code of the city of Epsein establishing prohibitions against aggressive solicitation within the city of Epsecin. May I hear a motion to open this meeting to the public for comment or discussion on this ordinance? >> Motion second. >> All in favor? >> Opposed. Would anybody from the public like to discuss on this matter? May I hear a motion to close the public portion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. May I hear a motion for the final reading and adoption of ordinance 082025? >> Motion. >> Second. Roll call, please. >> Art, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Laranda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Zoros, >> yes. This ordinance has been heard and is finally approved. 09 amending chapter 330 vehicles and traffic of the code of the city of EPEC establishing regulations for the parking of rolloff containers along roadways within the city of Epsecin. Do I hear a motion for the second reading of ordinance 09 2025? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. Z. >> Yes. Ordinance 092025 amending chapter 330 vehicles and traffic of the code of the city of EPEC establishing regulations for the parking of rolloff containers along roadways within the city of Epsecin. May I hear a motion to open this meeting to the public for comment or discussion on this ordinance? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. Would anybody from the public like to speak on this ordinance? May I hear a motion to close the public portion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I posted. May I hear a motion for the final reading and adoption of ordinance 092025? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Yes. >> White, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> D Rose, >> yes. This ordinance has been heard and is finally approved. Ordinance 10, amending chapter 270 of the code of the city of Ebstein establishing regulations for the prohibition of commercial vehicles within residential zones. Do I hear a motion for the second reading of this ordinance 10-2025? >> Motion, >> second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Yes. >> White, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> D, >> yes. Ordinance 10-2025 amending chapter 270 of the code of the city of Epic. Establishing regulations for prohibition of commercial vehicles in residential areas. May I hear a motion to open this meeting to the public for comment or discussion on this ordinance? >> Second. All in favor? >> I opposed. Would anybody from the public like to speak on this ordinance? May I hear a motion to close the public portion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. May I hear a motion for the final reading and adoption of ordinance 10-2025? >> Second. Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Larreta, >> yes. >> White, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Zos, >> yes. This ordinance has been heard and is finally approved. >> 11. Amending ordinance 11-2024 amending chapter 254 of the city of EPS code thereof titled peace and good order. Do I hear a motion for the second reading of the ordinance 11-2025? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Clarenda, >> yes. >> White, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Zuros, >> yes. Ordinance 11-2025 amending ordinance number 11-2024 amending chapter 254 of the city of seeing code thereof titled peace and good order. May I hear a motion to open the meeting to the public for comment or discussion on this ordinance? >> Motion second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. Would anybody from the public like to discuss or comment specific to this ordinance? May I hear a motion to close the public portion? >> Motion second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. >> May I hear a motion for the final reading and adoption of ordinance 11-2025? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Clar, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Soros, >> yes. This ordinance has been heard and is finally approved. May I hear a motion to add resolution number 157-2025 accepting volunteer firefighters to the consent agenda? >> Motion second. Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Lauratunda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Zos, >> yes. Um, just to comment on that, uh, it is rare that we read in an ordinance that wasn't actually on the agenda. Um Carrie and I run a tight ship when it comes to making sure the agenda gets out on time to the public. And we had already published the agenda and the fire chief uh had two new young volunteers that wanted to go to the fire academy. The fire academy starts in like two weeks and we wouldn't have a council meeting. So I made the exception to personally read it into the record so that we could vote on it in the consent agenda. I didn't want anybody, no funny business, just two young guys that want to go to the fire academy. >> Can I can I speak on that? >> Of course. So, uh, the two guys are going to fire academy, I had the privilege of actually coaching for baseball, basketball for probably seven years. There's nothing better than having two guys that grew up in Abek. This is actually the third group that I've been stepping up here that are now being part of our community and getting actively involved as a volunteer. And it's absolutely phenomenal that these guys want to give back and do stuff for the community that they grew up in. And these are two of the best kids that I could vouch for. So I'm shocked and really proud of all of them. So I appreciate it for your kind words, sir. Consent agenda. All matters listed under item consent agenda are considered to be routine by the city council and will be enacted by one motion in the form listed. There will be no separate discussion of these items. If discussion is desired, that item will be removed from the consent agenda and will be discussed separately. Are there any council members that need anything removed? >> Nope. >> All right. 148 authorizing >> reimbursements. I think 150. >> Thank you. I will remove 150 from the consent agenda. >> 148 authorizing the acceptance of and when authorized the release of various street opening permit security deposits permit 10-25. 149 authorizing the acceptance of and when authorized the release of various street opening permit security deposits permit 19-25. 151 authorizing the payout of accumulated time for an employee who resigned from the city of Epsein during the year 2025. 152 authorizing to rebuild the router pump and to purchase equipment materials from Grand Turk Equipment Co. Inc. 153 authorizing for HVAC services for various departments. 54 authorizing the insertion of special item of revenue into the 2025 municipal budget to allow for the receipt of $2,100 from the new state of New Jersey highway traffic safety 155 authorizing to cancel a portion of the third quarter, the fourth quarter of 2025 and the pre preliminary of 2026 taxes on the property located at 315 Pennsylvania Avenue block 83 lot 8 156 requesting ing the county of Atlantic to consider the removal of the right turn prohibition of southbound Pittney Road at Woodcrest Avenue 157 accepting volunteer firefighters into the city city fire department. Do I hear a motion to open the meeting to the public for agenda items only? >> Did you skip 151 by accident or >> No, he skipped. >> Yeah, but you skipped 151. >> Okay, I'm sorry. >> Pay attention, Alex. If I skip any Why don't I read 150 substain >> 150 authorizing the acceptance of and when authorized the release of various street opening permit security-205. >> Do I hear a motion to open the meeting to the public for these agenda items only? >> Motion second. >> All in favor? Opposed. >> Would anybody from the public like to come up and speak specific to any of these items? I gota ask, state your name and your address, sir. I'm just looking at a consent agenda here. Supposedly the county said they were okay. I was here at the council. They did it decided they uh it's my understanding. >> You're 100% right. So what happened was it came back to our attention. Um unfortunately previous city councils went through the whole process and then chose not to put it on the agenda. I don't know why. I can't speak on behalf of that. It came to my attention. It was a no-brainer. >> They chose not to send the request to the count. They chose not to send the request. So this is us moving forward with that. >> Okay. I remember you >> are correct. >> Yeah. So in order to leave it up >> in order for this. >> Yeah. No. So in order for this council >> in order for we spoke with Ed and in order for this council to make to do it, we do have to re ask the county because we're a new council. So that's and the second they say yes, I'm out there with >> my person. >> Is it the city that put it up or was it the county that put it up? I thought the city put it up. >> Yeah, but I still thought the city put it up. >> Yeah, if you look at the past. Would anybody else from the public like to speak on agenda items? >> Do I hear a motion to close the meeting to the public? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. Consent agenda. May I hear a motion to move the consent agenda? >> Second. Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Yes. To all except 150. I have >> light. >> Yes. Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Zos, >> yes. Approval of the bill list, 1,645,15544. May I hear a motion to accept the bill list? >> Motion. >> Second. Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Clarenda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> Zuros, >> yes. Approval of the minutes, regular meeting minutes 717 2025. Just really quick for the record folks that are here or new uh in July we have one meeting and in August we have one meeting. Just clarify. May I hear a motion to accept the minutes? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Clark, >> yes. >> Evans, >> yes. >> Laranda, >> yes. >> Light, >> yes. >> Parker, >> yes. >> Sykes, >> yes. >> The Rose, >> yes. I get a break. Uh reports. We'll start with Councilman Light on the end. >> Thank you, Mr. President. We did not meet this month for lack of substance and the conflict of several people's schedule. We do we will meet next month, the first Monday at 5:00. And what I'll do is looking at the schedule that falls on Labor Day. So I'll clarify and check with our website. A couple things that I would like to bring up is I'd like to special thank you to our uh for our national night out for all the participants for the police, the fire, our public especially our public works um that maintain all of our parks um impeccably every day as well as all of our buildings. I don't know whether public really realizes I know I always say it each meeting but that our public works do a whole lot more than uh a lot of other communities. They don't we don't outsource a lot of stuff. They do a lot of stuff inhouse. There's really a lot of talented people within our town and they save our community as well as our residents a lot of money. I would like to make a comment on I received a couple of notices from residents uh two residents one requesting and following up on pedestrian safety. One would been on Highland Boulevard. The other one would be on New York Avenue where there' be an entrance into the bike path. So, we are working on that. We have been working on that. We're working on some grants. Um, so we are working diligently to come up with a a really good plan and keep the cost down. And then I was approached by a resident on National Night Out and complimenting all the work that was done on View and just asked um if we had proceeded with any punch list items as well as we're wrapping up that project. So I said I would reach out to our engineer and then follow up with him. So thank you. Have a good night. >> Council finance has not met since the last meeting and we will be meeting in September and we'll be working on the budget for the first time for 2026 which will be a head start and uh we're asking all of the I know Kristen our CFO is sending out a message to all departments to start working on your 2026 budget. So we get a few months ahead of that. So be great. Great. Thank you, sir. Councilwoman, >> so I just want to also touch on national night out. Um, it was a very successful night. Lots of participation from all the local businesses and the vendors. Uh, see public schools, Holy Spirit, the veterinarian, Romans, Jersey Cal, Home Depot, Zona Real Estate, Atlanta County SWAT team for their demonstration, and of course our police and fire department. Um, I think that uh it was enjoyed by everybody. I know that um Tokyo Joe was there and he made a comment that he was at that was the fourth event that he was at that night and Epin was the only town that everything was free. Every other town had food trucks there or something else um that was um to be purchased. They did have vendor stands like we did, but um he was uh quite impressed by the participation and the outcry from the um our residents that showed up. Of course, thank you to the police department for the cooking all the hot dogs and uh everything and the demonstration from the fire department um that they had with the um hoses and putting out the uh fire and of course hanging the flag for us. So, >> Councilman, can you clarify who uh Tokyo Joe is for the people listening? >> County Sheriff's Joe. >> He's the county Atlanta County Sheriff. Can I just piggy back on that, Rich? I don't think people realize how much time that the chief, his crew, MOO, Maser Hink, all these guys put in to make it successful for our kids and our families and everybody there. And people rant and rave about what a good job they did. And I just don't want to be overlooked how much time these guys actually. And I think recognize that because it is time by these guys. It's time by the public works to get everything organized and it's time by these guys and the fire department and they did a great job and it should be back and forth >> to organize where everybody was going to be. They, you know, put it out in paint, you know, everything, you know, people showed up. They knew where their spot was. It was definitely well organized. And >> thank you. >> Flawless. >> Since we're talking about National Night Out, can I can I just throw me off your chief? Of course. Sorry. Of course. >> So, first off, I I want to thank all you for uh everyone here for always supporting us and allowing us to do these things. Um, selfishly, I will not allow uh outside vendors and and food trucks and stuff because National Night Out, I believe, is given to the public. It's bringing our residents and our children down to interact with our first responders as well as our our our council members and the mayor. Um, you know, it's pretty it's pretty amazing that um, Lieutenant Hank had this this huge job of planning for National Night Out for a long time and he was so proud the other night because he passed it on to Patrolling Bethe National Night Out this this year. Uh, patrol beet was already planned for next year. So, um, there's a lot of work that goes into that and, you know, I want to thank all of our our our local businesses and our groups for being a part of such a great night. Um, and you know, I just need the the public to understand that if if the police department could do that once a month, we would because our officers really enjoy being with the public and the residents and the kids more than you can ever imagine. So, thank I want to thank everybody for coming out and supporting us with that because it's it's a it's a huge effort and and there's a lot of satisfaction when we can interact with so many people that are so happy. I heard so many residents say, "I haven't seen uh this person or that person in so long." And it was so fun to be out here and and you be able to talk to people that we haven't seen. So, thank you guys. And uh you know, I want to just say I'm very proud of uh police department and everybody that's involved that do this on a day in a day basis. Um because um you know, I'm very grateful for the men and women that work for us. You know, reminding everybody that, you know, we're asked to do so many different things and um you know, our attention to detail is on all these things that people uh either see as a problem or or see as a positive light. Um but you know, at the end of the day, you know, we only had 23 full-time officers working all summer. So, I'm kind of um I'm taken back with how hard everybody has worked this year uh to continue to provide these services to everybody. >> Thanks, Chief. And the The only note I will I will add to to that and the other council members. For me, quite honestly, I think the most exciting part was um we as as a council and police department have worked extremely hard to um for the first time since the 90s increase our police department um numbers. And it was extremely exciting to have our six officers that graduated less than a month ago in uniform interacting with the public. huge smiles on their face and I'll be honest that was the most exciting part for me was uh seeing those guys fresh out of the academy already working and and you know doing the job community policing. So uh kudos to to those uh those folks. >> There goes my whole report. >> Councilman Parker is not going to have anything to say. >> I'm still not finished with my report. So go ahead. I'd like to make a motion. >> Listen guys, I'd like >> I'd like to make a motion to see President Rose back in the dunk tank. It was only this year >> and I I think it would be good for community morale. >> Only if the mayor is in it, too. >> I'm still I'm still recovering from broken toes last year. So, uh I will consider that, but I won't read it in. >> Councilwoman Parker, >> Linda's not done. I was I just want to touch real quick. We did have a meeting tonight. Um we did meet at community uh affairs and our biggest thing now is Creekfest. We're looking forward to um September 21st from 2:00 to 7:00. Um we do have our food trucks confirmed. We are looking forward to uh another um positive outing just like the national uh night out um for our community for everybody to come out and participate. Uh anybody who um is interested in getting involved, please reach out to me. We are still looking for volunteers even for that day. Even if it's uh selling a t-shirt or being at the um entrance check-in IDs, uh we'd love to have anybody come out and help us. And our next meeting is September 4th. >> Thank you, Councilman. Councilwoman Parker. >> Oh, hi. >> Um, a couple things have happened since our last meeting. Um, one was our the mass for healing that was hosted here right at St. Elizabeth and Seaton on the 23rd of July. Um I was lucky enough to be able to attend this uh mass and um it was a pretty um solemn mass but something that was necessary and something I'd like to see again. Um it memorialized the people um the people we've lost in these traffic accidents but it also um honored the police officers that respond to these accidents. So, I think it's something that I'd like to see again and I believe that we're lucky that we were able to host it right here in Abssein and thank the prosecutor's office and our police department for helping put this together. Um the other um thing that happened in July, the next day on the 24th, our six officers graduated from the 30th graduating class of Landing County Police Training Center. Um and I'm happy to see them almost every day. I think I've seen them since they have started. So it they're a great addition to our police department and uh we are lucky to have them as well. I will not talk that much about National Night Out because I think it has been covered, but I I do think that the best part was seeing our six new officers there. Um the second best part is I walked there on Cresfield Avenue phase one project and that was a lovely walk down Cresview Avenue too. So >> shout out to you. uh we met this uh Monday um and you know pretty much talked about those couple of items we just talked about. Um I know there's been a lot of talk about the the bridge and it is being um addressed. Um and uh we touched base about having the movie at the um as a fundraiser for the Field of Dreams in September. So we're going to work community affairs is going to work with the police department on planning that. Um, Chief, do you have anything else to add? >> I do. Uh, since you mentioned the movie, the movie will be Saturday, September 18th. >> What's the movie? >> The Field of Dreams. >> I love it. >> Very fitting. >> It's awesome. >> The Field of Dreams at the Field of Dreams. So, please come out and support uh the movie and uh all proceeds will go to the Field of Dreams. Do we have a Blue Devils schedule yet to know that? That >> there's a schedule. >> There's a schedule. >> I have that. Yeah. First home game Saturday, September 13th, right? >> Have you ever heard the Kevin Cosner story about Field of Dreams and Field of Dreams? >> No. >> I'll tell you afterwards. >> Thanks for saving us. >> I'm going to leave you on that. There you go. >> Council President, >> I did want to I did want to expand on the graduation. Um, you know, I I I've been doing I've been in police work for over 25 years. I've been your chief for over five. Um, the the fact is is someone's mentioned it earlier, the last time we recruited untrained officers for the city of Epicin was 1990. um to actually, you know, recruit and and hire within um myself as a longtime resident and and growing up here. Uh as well as um retired captain stole when we wanted to be a police officer here, we were told we had to go somewhere else and transfer or we were never working here because we they just stopped sending people to the police academy. I got to tell you, um, the graduation, um, myself and the administration along with Mayor, um, [ __ ] um, we had a fantastic day seeing those guys, uh, during the graduation and quite frankly, it was one of the highlights of my career. So, thank you for all that. >> Thanks, Chief. Um, one other thing I just want to talk about on uh Thursday, August 21st, um, at Church by the Bay, Pastor Lou is working with us with the um, with this this uh, homeless problem. Um, he's taken a a a different approach because he's tired of people talking about it and and not doing. So, what he's done is is he's um he's asked us, the Galloway Police Department along with Atlantic County Prosecutor's Office, the New Jersey State Police, we are going to have an event from 11 to 6 that will um we're going to uh filter or invite or or try to uh get anybody who is in a position of homelessness or anything else to the church. Um we'll have health care professionals, mental health aids, uh drug addiction advocates. Um we will we'll be there to help with job placement. Um uh housing. Um there'll be hot meals provided along with personal hygiene. Uh I think this is a step in the right direction. Um and um we're we're hoping that we can change maybe if we can change one or two lives that day. Um you know, it'll be a build a huge building block moving forward uh and and working together with these other um other people. So, uh it's going to be Thursday, August 21st. You're going to see signs out there um you know, trying to get the the people that are of need aware of this. uh and as well as we'll be using uh you know some of our uh other uh partners to uh help the people get there. >> Chief, what was that location again? Just to reiterate, >> Church by the Bay, >> the Old State Trooper Barracks. >> It's right on Route 30 uh across from like the Waw Wa there. >> 44 East White Horse Pike. >> Thanks, Chief Councilman Sykes. >> Thank you, President. Um we have not met yet this month. We're going to meet this coming Tuesday. I'm sorry, 8 8:19th this Tuesday. Um, we got a couple things on our agenda we're going to discuss with the committee. Couple things in the works. I'm really looking forward to it. I know we have uh football season coming up. Uh, again to the public works, kudos to those guys. Fields look great. Um, practice fields look great. So, um, the one thing I do want to count, you know, I'm not everybody already said it, but um, you know, National Night Out was huge success. Uh again, huge thank you to all that were involved with planning, council, police, fire. Um you know, I have two little kids. They were running around and you know, just to watch them have a blast and see all the different people. Um you know, really enjoyed that. Second, for me, like I know this is our motto, like I'm seeking is home, but it was just really neat to see the community come together and like all the different businesses. Everybody came out, everybody had a tent. Um, you know, I just think that's a huge reflection of our town on how we can come together and everybody can kind of put put everything else aside and, you know, just really do that for the community and the kids. It was awesome. So, thank you, Council Lundo. Uh, we have not met this month. Our next meeting will be, uh, August 21st, but I would like to also thank all the businesses who participated in National Night Out. Uh, and I also want to thank all those who came to Jersey Cow's grand opening uh, this past Saturday. It was a great uh afternoon and uh congratulations to them again and thanks for their investment here in town and looking forward to them being having a successful uh career here. So, thank you. >> Thank you, Councilman. Engineers report. >> Thank you, Council President. I just have a few updates. So, um I've mentioned in past meetings, we have a project to update our lobby here at city hall. That project's going out to bid. We're having our bid opening on August 19th. Those will be ADA accessibility upgrades. We're going to basically open up the lobby so you won't have that vestable there. You just walk straight into the lobby so it'll be a lot easier to get in and out of the building and there'll also be some improvements to the sidewalk in front of the building just to make it more accessible. So that project's going out to bid. Our road program and the raised crosswalk project are moving along in the design process um so we can get those out to bid soon. Last meeting we did approve the new flashing crosswalk signs on New Jersey Avenue, Ohio Boulevard. So we've sent all the all the contract information over to the contractor. We're getting him scheduled, so you'll see those signs coming up soon, which will be a a major safety improvement. And then last, but certainly not least, we had a meeting with the Atlantic County Engineers Office um on July 30th regarding the Shore Road project. Um they did um extend us the courtesy of meeting with us in person to try to short circuit the normal review process of we send them our stuff, they send us a letter, we send them a letter. So, we spent, you know, almost a couple hours together going over line by line the outstanding items. I think we all left that room with an understanding of um, you know, the last final tweaks that needed to be done. Those that final package will go into to to the county this month and our expectation is that we will be moving into the bid process very very shortly after that. So, I'll keep everybody updated. Um, I I know I've been saying we're on the one yard line. I don't know. It's like a tush push now. Like, we're right there. So, um, we're almost there. That's all I got. >> Thanks ahead. Appreciate it. Crosswalks you think are going to be out the bid when did you say? >> I don't have a date yet, Councilman, but I'll get you our projected date. I'll let you know. >> We have our assigned locations of where they're going to be placed first. No, we do. I just don't have that handy public. >> Yep. >> And I have Steve retaining that that project is um do we have um you'd be disappointed if I didn't ask you this. Do we have a an an upgraded lighting package in there where all mostly all those those street lights are all struggling all along there? Is that >> which project? >> Um Shore Road. >> Shore Road. Um so it's not part of our bid package, but we can certainly address it as you know in parallel with the project um the Atlantic City electric lights. No, >> because that road will be shut down or whatever they're going to do. It' be a perfect time to do some improvements and >> it'll there'll be a cost impact, but I think it'll it'll actually it'll serve everyone well. >> Sure. >> Thank you. >> Got it. >> Anything else, Councilman? Good. >> Thank you, >> Mayor Report. Uh I I have to say National Night Out. >> I have nothing left to add. Uh I was going to throw myse home community thing. Councilman Sy got it for me. Uh thank you chief for everything. And real quick just to to explain uh we've now had two meetings with our homeless task force and I think it's really important to explain some of the ordinances that were passed tonight that Pastor Judy was uh had notes on. We we have poured a lot of time and effort into these ordinances. Um, this homeless task force has membered three different people who work in the social service industry, our police department after the success of our first meeting and then a a newspaper article that had to do with Chief Lachland and I kind of standing up to Ocean County. Uh, Goway Township has now joined our homeless task force and it it's been a great it was very very productive and I truly would ask I know we all have very busy schedules. Um, it's summertime but I I have every intention of going August 21st to the Church by the Bay with Pastor Skaggala and I would uh encourage any council members who are available uh to show up. It's going to be very rewarding to try and and and actually help people and put our money where our mouths are that we're we're we're here to help and and we're going to be there for everybody. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. >> Before I move on, does anyone have anything else? >> Do I hear a motion to open the meeting to the public? >> Motion. Second. >> All in favor? I >> opposed. Would anybody from the public like to come up and speak? If so, please state your name and address. any any at this point it's anything you want my favorite color or whatever anything you want. I am Eric Harrington 17 Stony Brook Drive apartment 24. Um this is just a traffic light issue on westbound Mill Road. Every now and then the green light will last for about 5 to 10 seconds. It appears to follow when somebody is crossing the street and maybe has activated the walk signal. It's very frustrating during morning rush hours when you're stuck in lines of cars and then suddenly you see a yellow light when you think you've got a chance to go through the intersection. And with more driveways off of that road now with businesses, it could get backed up even further. >> I appreciate that. Um, Ed is probably cringing because I fight the good fight on the traffic timing, the lights, uh, up and down the White Horse Pike. Ed, can we reach out? Um, >> is that Route 30? >> Yes, that's right. >> Mil Road and Route 30. >> Which direction though? >> Westbound. >> North or southbound? >> Okay. >> All right. Crossing from Jersey Cow over to McDonald. goes really fast. >> I looked at the rearview mirror in my car to get the directions. I got you. >> So what we'll do is we'll uh the process is so so Ed will reach out to the county state >> and the first thing what we'll do is they're able to like look into the actual like timing mechanism and >> if it is running what they claim perfect, we can always then take the next step to have them look into changing the timing depending on you know certain situations or in other situations we found that the timing was off and it was rectified. So, um, hopefully we'll we'll be able to follow up with you once the county, but Ed will handle that for you, sir. >> Okay. All right. I appreciate it. Thank you. >> Thank you. I was saying thank you for bringing it up. >> Okay. >> Can't fix it. I don't know whether somebody mentioned it before or not. >> Nobody has, but you are right. >> Actually, the police department did put a request in about a year ago. They did it did seem to get better, but now it's it's back to being really quick again. >> Can we add Salur Road to that then, too? >> That one unfortunately. Yeah. But the way their timing is, they claim that it's up to the traffic study that they've done. >> You sit there and they're not really budging. >> Great. You missed the whole cycle. >> Would anybody else from the public like to speak? >> I know I know your name now, but name and address, please. >> Allison Maxfield, 311 East Wyoming Avenue, second floor. Um, so I just want to um I love what you have in mind for the task force and the um idea at the church. I think it's unbelievable. I'm glad you had um a really great night out. I wasn't there uh cuz I was having a night out somewhere else, but um I'm glad it was such a success. I think that there needs to be more community things. So um okay, let me because I'm trying to remember what I have to and then >> Oh, good. Take your time. Okay. So, the first one is I know that the last meeting um there was the talk about it's great that there's signage now um or there's the the um about drive you know the proper driving speed this that and the other but at the last meeting it was said that there were a lot of different people in the community who felt that there was a traffic issue or like that people were driving too fast stuff like that. So the idea that I had is I I love the idea of seeking is home. So, I think it would be wise to create signage that people can put on their um you know, and they can get it here and they can pick it up maybe for like a you know, a price of $5 or something like that. That would meet the needs of the community um because they'd feel like they were really heard on those things. And the idea that I have is like obse drive respectfully. Drive like your kids live here. I think that'd be a really good one. Um, >> and then once before, haven't we? Time to do that again. >> I think we've done before we were drive safely with kids or something. >> It is 100% time to do that again. It was I believe it was like we love our children like in our community. Please drive safely and um like we drive around some people have their broken but we we wouldn't >> Mayor what we'll do is we'll either after this meeting or tomorrow we'll go into the we call it the vault but it's not like some secret vault but we'll go into the vault and uh we'll count how many we have and then we can advertise it and push out a a campaign again. >> Okay. >> You're in a great spot for it. >> I know. I know. I know. We have um the tractor, you know, all the food that's going through. I think that whole area with all five, you know, the streets coming together. I call the star, but every single area there needs signage. Um and I think the residents would really appreciate that. They would feel very cared for, but it also creates a sense of community. Um so the other idea is um so the only food bank or the the only place that I know that really gives food out to hungry people is Beacon Church. So The Catholic Church in Ebin does as well. >> Okay. They they might do they line up right there in Pleasant. Pastoral also does. >> I'm sorry I interrupted. I don't care. No, that's great. Cuz I wanted to know more places. Yes, the place in Pleasantville does. The school does, but um there's I think there's going to be a crisis up by um Smithville area. Now, that might be more Galloway, but it seems like we're in a lay on ship with Galloway anyway. So, I think the real issue is um there's going to be because of everything going on with the tariffs, the economy that we're dealing with right now, there's going to be a lot of people in private businesses who may lose their jobs. There's going to be a lot of stuff. So, one of the major factors from lay miz, we know that the guy stole bread and then he's pursued by, you know, but the point is when people are hungry, they do a lot of crappy stuff and they don't mean to break the law, but they're hungry. So, I think that there needs to be more food banks in the area and I think that it needs to be a position that's um supported by the council and letters are sent out. Um because, you know, we don't right now I don't know if they're feeding kids at homes. Uh uh if they're feeding kids at school anymore, you know, there used to be the SNAP program, all these different programs. Um go ahead. I'm a I'm a teacher within one of the local districts and we do um obviously there's always been a free and reduced lunch that students they they do have to sign up for it. So something has to be filled out and once that's filled out that parent, that guardian, that student um they do have access to free and reduced depending on what the income for that family is. But we do free breakfast for all every day, Monday through Friday. Wow. >> They get whatever they want. Um usually multiple things, a juice, a milk, um you know, anything from yogurt to bars and things like that. Um but that is every day >> and that is advertised in the >> school is advertised. >> And I know reads a newspaper, but legally the school districts have to advertise it in newspapers um during the summer. So the notice did go out from all the school districts in the area about free and reduced lunches. >> Wonderful. So um I'm also hope that's that's just amazing. I'm so glad to live in this community. So, um the other thing is Huh. >> Well, thank you, mayor. So, um the other thing is I think we can reach out to the VFWs, American Legions also to provide food banks. Um you know, right now we've got to create the social security net. That's not out there. Um the next thing is >> Can I speak on that real quick? Go ahead. No, I think that's a fantastic idea. We we have a lack of food banks, yes, but more importantly, there are probably more food banks around than we realize. And the reason they don't make it so public is because they're all struggling to get food in their food banks because there's so many people who donate to the wrong reason or the wrong cause instead of looking at their local churches and their local food banks and actually donating to them. whether you go buy canned food or or give a gift card so that the the churches and those organizations can go purchase food. What's happened is is is over the years some of these food banks have closed cuz simply they couldn't couldn't get the contributions to give back to the people that really need. >> Mayor, uh can I request that your committee look into possibly doing some sort of food drive? >> I've already written it down. Thank you, Mr. President. That's why we work well together. >> All right. And I think that also reaching out to the food bank of New Jersey that is over on you know the black horse pike. They might want to have something on the white horse pike. It would be wise. So maybe with their funage they could do something as well. And then the next idea was um well I've got two idea. Is it okay that I'm still speaking? Do you need me to stop? Okay. So, >> I forgot to start the timer, so I'm sorry. >> So, I'm hearing that the police really love to be with the youth. And um you know, I think it would be great if there was some sort of activity for youth or even for young adults, something like that, cuz we don't really have a recreation department as far, do we? >> Yeah, we do. >> We do. >> Absolutely. Social athletic club. We run all the sports in town. So, we have we have soccer, basketball, baseball, we have everything but football, lacrosse, which are their two entities. So we have pretty much what I want to say seven sports between all of us every season. So we >> okay >> so we have a lot of sports going for these kids. We have basketball courts right now. We have the field of dreams. We have uh it's a lot of things for our kids to do and this has been I mean I'm a lifelong resident of 44 years and I've played through all of this as a kid. So this has been a very successful program for >> Are you looking outside of actual >> organization? I just want to tell you um when we do have our events, we do reach out to the schools. We have contacts at the schools. So just um our day of service um for Martin Luther King Day was supposed to be a cleanup day. Um we reached out to the schools. They they sent all their um National Junior National Honor Society from the seventh and eighth grade over at Atley's. Um it had snowed or iced the day before and we couldn't go clean up. Um, so we went and bought peanut butter and jelly and bread and all those students sat there and made peanut butter and jelly that um, we did give to an organization that gives to the homeless. They made encouragement cards and stuff. So we do actively um, embrace the youth in our community and reach out to the schools when we have an event that they can participate in. That's awesome. So, I guess the idea that I'm getting at is um so I go to the Egg Harbor Township Rec Center and I love that place because they've got this Signis art center there for kids and adults and then they have a lot of like adult stuff. Um so I would love to see an art center of some kind or art programming. >> If you asked me my number one goal and dream as council president would be to bring a rec center to the city of Epsin. Um, financially, I don't see that happening anytime soon. Just being totally blunt. Um, but that is my absolute end all beall goal as an elected official is to eventually Councilman Nick's got a lot comes up with an idea once a month on how we can get a rec center. Um, that is honestly what I think you say it's like the number one uh goal. >> So, I think it's there's actually a solution for that. So, um, you've got the Obscin church right in town that's across from the, um, the graveyard. >> Yeah, that was the pastor who >> Okay, great. And there's a lot of churches in town. So, and already we're utilizing the church that's on Church Street for the senior center, right? So, these churches have huge areas that they can house an art center. Um, I don't see why it couldn't happen. It's even better than what Gallery has, which is a really small place. And the library no longer has a private room for arts in Galloway. >> So the one the the one thing I will tell you is are you familiar with these art alliance? >> I um the the one run by um the guy who's a teacher. >> Oh um I don't know. >> No I don't know who >> I don't know these Arts Alliance. Now >> um I'll connect you with them because they do different programs specific to art in Epicin. Um it it bounces around. They don't have a studio or a specific center but I can connect you with them. >> Okay. Cool. Yeah, I'd like to connect with them. >> Yeah, absolutely. I can do that. >> And then the last thing is uh I think I got to everything actually, but I just wanted to understand something better. There's a field um it's in a memorial field and it's across from the Reformation Church. >> That's you're thinking of Galloway. That's Galloway. >> Oh, that's Galloway. Okay. >> That's literally >> Yeah. I can never understand why it's not being used >> right for rugby. They use it for rugby. today. Yeah, >> I think it would be so great for a movie night there, you know. >> Galloway right there. Here we go. Night time heads. >> That's mainly why it's not you. >> Email address and I can get get you contact with >> Yeah, I just just throw that. Yeah, sure. >> Would anybody else from the public like to speak? >> Captain Maser, if we keep making eye contact, you eventually have to come off. Do I hear a motion to close the meeting to the public? Motion. All in favor? >> Opposed? >> May I hear a motion to adjourn those meeting? Motion. Second. All in favor? >> Opposed? >> Thank you everybody for coming tonight. >> Thank you everyone.