City of Brigantine's Personal Meeting Room
The council approved a package of routine resolutions including support for an Atlantic County landfill expansion, several contracts and appointments, and event/raffle permits. Council discussed recent storm cleanup, beach erosion short-term mitigation, rising utility/delivery charges, and received public comments about immigration policy and local safety concerns.
Key points
Council passed a resolution endorsing an expansion of the Atlantic County landfill to extend capacity to 2040 (reducing the need to ship waste out and saving ratepayers money).4:29 ↗
A $1.58M contract was awarded for water system improvements and roadway reconstruction on Beayshore Avenue (includes storm system work before full road reconstruction).15:06 ↗
Council praised public works for extensive storm/ice cleanup after a complex snow→rain→freeze event; crews worked around the clock and only city hall closed one day.19:37 ↗
Council discussed a short-term beach erosion measure (a deployable 'tiger dam') as a potential fix pending state/federal approvals, estimated under $200,000.28:48 ↗
Residents raised local concerns in public comment: requesting the city declare it is not a 'sanctuary city,' and reporting unlit/unsafe roadway lighting on Route 30.33:20 ↗
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Topics with timestamps
Landfill expansion support
4:29Council adopted a resolution supporting Atlantic County's proposed landfill vertical and horizontal expansions to extend permitted capacity from 2029 to about 2040, framed as a cost-saving measure for ratepayers.
Beayshore Avenue reconstruction
15:06Council approved a $1,581,937 contract for water system improvements and roadway reconstruction on Beayshore Avenue; storm/drainage pipes will be addressed before final repaving.
Storm response & public works
19:37Council members thanked public works, police and fire for rapid response to an unusual snow→rain→freeze event; most emergency routes were cleared and crews continue work on side streets.
Beach erosion / temporary seawall (tiger dam)
28:48Council described a possible short-term deployment of a 'tiger dam' tube system to protect an eroding stretch of Promenade pending governor/Army Corps approvals; estimated cost under $200,000.
Utility bills and delivery charges
28:48Council is working with state officials to obtain data from South Jersey Gas on delivery charge history and composition after resident complaints about high delivery charges.
Community events & administrative items
18:07Council approved event permits (food truck series, Cherry Blossom 5K, Pup Strut), raffle licenses, and appointed a municipal housing liaison (Rachel Beckner).
Decisions / votes
- 4:29Adopted resolution supporting amendment to Atlantic County solid waste management plan to endorse landfill expansion (resolution 2026-51).
- 13:35Authorized property tax exemption for a permanently disabled veteran (resolution 2026-52).
- 13:35Approved final change order #1 for wellhouse entry/site rehab (net increase $19,496.99) (resolution 2026-53).
- 15:06Awarded contract to Pen Power Systems for generator preventative maintenance services (amount listed in packet).
- 15:06Authorized five-year contract with Rich Fire Protection for fire suppression inspection/testing ($9,000).
- 15:06Awarded contract to Charles Marendino, Inc. for water system improvements and roadway reconstruction on Beayshore Avenue ($1,581,937) (resolution 2026-56).
- 16:37Authorized tax collector to issue overpayment refunds (resolution 2026-57).
- 16:37Granted revocable license for encroachment at 1312 West Beach Avenue (resolution 2026-58).
Public comment
Resident requested the city declare it is not a 'sanctuary city' and expressed concern about immigration policies and local enforcement; council responded that local policy is to follow federal law and avoid politicizing municipal meetings.
Resident reported unlit/unsafe overhead lighting on Route 30 (White Horse Pike) near Home Depot and asked council to pursue repairs for public safety; council said acting chief will follow up.
Resident praised public works and emergency services for storm cleanup and road clearing during the recent ice/snow event.
Resident asked whether a credit card surcharge applies at the beach/community office; council explained a small processor fee is charged by the vendor.
Resident expressed that the governor's utility 'freeze' did not address third-party energy suppliers and called for stronger action on utility costs.
Transcript (6,584 words)
I'd like to welcome everybody to our February 4th Brigantine City Council meeting. Please rise for the flag salute to the flag of the United States of America and to the stand. Heavenly Father, we give you thanks for the freedom we exercise and the many blessings of democracy we enjoy in these United States of America. We ask your protection and guidance for all those who devote themselves to the common good, working for justice and peace at home and around the world. Heal us from our differences and unite us with a common purpose, dedication and commitment to achieve liberty and justice in the years ahead for all people and especially for those who are most valuable in our midst. May we pray this in your name. Amen. And please remain standing for the moment of silence for another one of our long long time Brigantine residents, Mrs. Rowey Rehill. Mrs. Rehill and her husband Ed Rehill were very very involved in our community for many years. If you realize Ed Rehill, his name is on our boat house. He was very instrumental in all the crew programs in our whole area. Um, Mrs. Rehill is survived by her son Tom, former police chief here, Riotine, her son Ed, and her other son Michael, and her daughter Teresa, many in-laws, grandchildren, and they're very, very involved in our community. So, please moment of silence. Thank you. Please be seated. >> Christine, can you read the open public meetings act announcement? >> Act executive session. >> No executive session. Mayor, >> uh, first up, we have our approval of our [snorts] minutes. This is for January 21st, 2026. We have a motion. Second move. >> Second. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, we have roll call. >> Stain. >> Yes. >> Mayor Sarah. >> Yes. >> Need our approval of our bill requisition list. We have a motion. Second. >> So moved. Second. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. >> Sarah. >> Yes. >> Uh, at this time we'll open it up for public comment. Anybody wishing to be heard on any agenda, any agenda on the I can talk any item on the agenda, please come up and state your name and address for the record. I'll have you come during the resolution. >> My name's Ed Blad. I'm from Third Street South. and an agenda item from a few years ago can >> need to be an agenda item >> has to be this one and it'll be at the end of this >> at the end you can speak about anything you >> like hour or two from now I guess >> so you just so you'd have to wait till the end of the meeting to so this open is just for things on the agenda if you want to speak about something other than something on tonight's agenda at the end of the meeting we have an open public and then you can speak about any topic >> okay I understand it just didn't come across that way when I looked on the on the That's okay. No worries. >> Thank you. All right. If there's no public comment, we'll close the public comment. At this time, we have resolution uh 2026 number 51. And this is a resolution supporting an amendment to the Atlantic County solid waste management plan endorsing the expansion of the ACA landfill at the Howard Fritz Honaman Environmental Park. We have a motion second. So moved. At this time, I'd like to open the floor up to Janette Kessler. I'm Janette Kesler. I'm um the risk manager at ACUA and um Brigantine resident. I have with me Greg Ser. He is the vice president of solid waste at ACA and he is going to speak on the landfill project. >> I was told if I bring Janette, you'll just do whatever I ask. So [laughter] you were told correctly. So, uh, as Jad said, I'm Greg Sarah, vice president at the ACUA. Um, so >> Oh, no. >> Send a bill for that. Thank you, bro. >> I can hold it. >> Okay. >> Can everyone still hear me? Good. >> Yeah, we can. >> Uh, so the resolution is for support of our expansion of our landfill. Uh we've had about 16 municipalities so far support this. Um currently our landfill is permitted through 2029. Um a few years but not that long. Uh the expansion will get us to 2040 which is a significant improvement and gives us more long-term planning for other options besides landfilling. The expan expansions are nothing new at our landfill. We've been you know we expand every day as we add more trash. But we've done several expansions. Uh we've put walls around to increase capacity. Um, so it's not anything out of the ordinary. Every other landfill in the state is doing expansions as well. This is not something crazy, not something that has been done before or unique to Atlantic County. We're talking about a vertical expansion and a horizontal expansion. So in your in your package, it's very easy to visualize. Um, you see an aerial photo of our landfill. There's a little notch that kind of cuts in there, right? Looks like wasted space. That's essentially what it is. I don't know why years ago [clears throat] when we permitted it as we did we designed it that way but it's just area adjacent to our landfill that is not being used by capturing that space that gets us about six years it's five acres gets us six years we're also talking a vertical expansion currently we're at 145 ft we're asking to go up to 185 ft that gets us another five years on top of that um the important part about the vertical expansion is this it is free air space there's no infrastructure cost to build that the most recent expansion we did cost about 18 million got us four years. This proposed expansion will cost about $25 million get us 11 years. So you're seeing significant savings on your per year basis. So that is really big for us and the most important thing is big for all of our rate payers to keep our costs low. We're currently the lowest landfill cost in New Jersey. Um so you know that's our goal to maintain those low cost. Um height expansion you you might hear, oh my gosh, you're going higher. You're going to see it from all over the place, right? I live in Abseen. I can see it two spots on um Mil Road driving uh or towards Westcot towards the airport and then you kind of see it um in Callaway a little bit. You only see it if you know what you're looking for. Um so in your packet here there's a picture of this last page right here. A picture we did had our engineering analysis do visuals of what you would see. So you won't see it from anywhere you don't already see it. So we're going up 40 ft is not some astronomical amount. There's also a handout here of current landfill heights. So we are currently the lowest landfill in the state, not just rate, but in height. So when we talk about going up 40 feet, uh Kay County is already 200 feet. We're at 140 feet. So Kate May County, same terrain as us. We're not going astronomically high. We're basically doing what every other landfill the state is doing. Um what I'll reiterate to is the cost, right? So if this expansion doesn't happen and we have to ship waste out, it's about $25 million a year per year to county rateayers. So it's a little bit different for every municipality, but $25 million over the course of the entire county. That is a lot of money. Um everyone know budgets are tight. Our goal is to keep those numbers low for you. So that's the quick presentation. If you have more questions, I'm happy to answer them for you. Wanted to keep it quick for you, but I can answer any questions you have. And I can tell you personally, I'm glad to see that BCA is doing the expansion. I know uh with the mayor's association, we had met a couple years ago with concern about what happens once you get to capacity. So, I'm glad that you guys have a good plan to extend that and hopefully in the next 11 years, there's some um evolution of technology that will help us down the road. So, thank you. >> And we are actually in the process of that, too. We are currently in an RFP. We have three companies shortlisted that will propose us different technologies. We'll see how that plays out. That's something I've been at the ACUA for almost 20 years now. was something I've been chasing when I started there. They said, "Greg, you'll be the only one here when the landfill closes." And they are they all retired now and I'm still here. So, yes. Um, but we are looking for solutions and even beyond that stuff like food waste recycling, there's things that we can do and we will slowly transition as we move forward, but this gives us much more time to find those solutions. >> Absolutely. No, I think it's a great plan. Appreciate you guys coming out tonight to present. Craig, I know you had problems last year with the with the odor coming out of there. Yeah. That has been rectified, though. >> Yeah. Yes. So, I'll tell you, I live in Abseen and that's where the complaints were coming from. Um, so, you know, it's it's a landfill, right? It's not a bakery or anything that smells good. There will always be some motors there. And, you know, we are being sued by our neighbors who live closer to the to the landfill than my office is to the landfill, right? So, I cannot control when someone buys a house and doesn't do their due diligence. It's 60 residents out of 250,000 in Atlanta County that are suing us for that. There was increased odors 2023 going into 2024 that was affecting more of AppScan that has been rectified. Um, our complaints have gone down significantly. Um, you know, the data is all there and essentially again having lived in AppScin, the elected officials there know how to find me and they tell me when something's wrong and I I got a call from them in over a year about anything. So, you know, I think we've proven the situation significantly. I did see they're building a tremendous amount of units. >> Yes, that's so that's an EHT on the other side of the parkway. Yeah, the good news for that is um well, I don't know if they'll read it, but in their deed, it does require them to acknowledge they're >> living next to a landfill and an airport at an airport shooting range. So, I had someone call me actually asked me. I said, "Look, if it was me, I would not buy a house next to landfill. That's my recommendation, but they're being built there. They have to acknowledge next to landfill and Well, I just want to say thanks, Greg, for you coming out tonight. And uh Janette, uh when you did your presentation at the League of Municipalities recently, it's just great news for Atlantic County that we're going to be good until 2040 now, compared to worrying about what's going to happen over the next couple years. And the cost would be much more expensive if we had to start shipping uh our waste out. So, this is this is fabulous news. And you know, we're we're glad to support it. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. And it gets me to retirement, too. So, that's good. >> Well, that's good. That's good. >> There's no other questions. >> Can we have roll call? >> Yes. >> Thank you guys. We appreciate it. >> And Janette, thank you again for everything you do for us. And if anybody hasn't heard yet, Janette is one of the grand marshals of uh the St. Patrick's parade this year with Neil Kaine. So that's why she wore her green shirt tonight with John Doran. He's getting ready for uh prepping for St. Patrick's month also. Thank you, John. We have resolution 2026-52 and this is a resolution authorizing a property tax exemption for a permanently disabled veteran block 6902 lot 41. A motion second. >> I'll make that motion second. >> Questions or comments? Can we have roll call? >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. >> Sarah. >> Yes. >> Resolution 2026-53. This is a resolution authorizing the final change order for number one for the wellhouse entry and site elements rehab rehabilitation project. And this is a net increase of $19,496.99. We have a motion. Second. >> Second. Uh John or Tiger, can you give us an update what the additional work was? >> That was for the wellouses at the north end. The front porch was sinking. The wellhouse next to the museum was capped. We're turning that into storage and maybe bathroom in the museum. a few other big projects that we did. >> Thank you, Ch. All right, if there's no questions or comments, can we have roll call? >> Yes. >> Resolution 2026-54. This is a resolution authorizing a contract with Pen Power Systems for a generator uh preventative maintenance services. And this is a total amount of $12,74344. Motion second. >> So second >> questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll file? >> Yes. >> Resolution 2026-55. This is a resolution authorizing a 5-year contract with rich fire protective uh protection for fire suppression system inspection and testing. This is the amount of $9,000. We have a motion second. >> So move second. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none. Can we have roll call? >> Yes. >> Mayor Sarah. >> Yes. >> Resolution 2026-56. This is a resolution authorizing the award of contract to Charles Marendino, Inc. for water system improvements and roadway reconstruction of Beayhore Avenue from 38th Street South to the Lighthouse Circle. Uh this is in the amount of uh 1,581,937. We have a motion second. >> I'll make that motion. Second. >> Uh one of the big things we're working on in the city of Brigantine is uh road improvements. Uh we've had a lot of requests for this area, Beayshore Avenue to be repaved. What it needs is actually a full reconstruction. Before we can do that, we have to actually um address the um storm system and the pipes that are basically under the road. We're doing that now. Once that's done, we'll be able to come back and do the reconstruction of the road. If there's no questions or comments, can we have roll call? >> Yes. >> Sarah, yes. Resolution 2026-57. This is a resolution authorizing the tax collector to issue overpayment refunds. We have a motion second. So move >> second. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? >> Yes. >> Sarah, >> yes. >> Resolution 2026-58. This is a resolution granting a re a revocable license at 1312 West Beach Avenue for an encroachment on the city's property. We have a motion to second. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? >> Yes. >> Resolution 2026-59. This is a resolution authorizing an agreement with Mark Kimal, general manager of the Brigitine Golf. We have a motion second. I'll make that motion. Second. >> Any questions or comments? Seeing none from call. >> Yes. >> Sarah. >> Yes. >> Resolution 2026-60. Uh this is a resolution appointing a municipal housing liaison and that will be Rachel Beckner. We have a motion second. So >> move second. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? >> Yes. >> Sarah. >> Uh Rachel does a great job and I'm proud to reappoint her. Yes. >> Resolution 2026-61. This is a resolution authorizing the city of Brigantine um to enter into a cooperative pricing agreement. Motion second. >> Second. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have roll call? >> Yes. >> Sarah, >> yes. >> Up next, we have our consent agenda. We have Elk's raffle license number 1139. Various states. We have the 2026 food truck uh summer series. We have the cherry blossom 5K April 24th and the pup strut October 10th. We have a motion second. >> So move second. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, can we have a roll call? >> Yes. >> Mayor Sarah, >> yes. >> Uh up next we have our council manager committee discussions. Time for Mayor, the only thing I want to uh bring up is um like to thank the men and women of public works for the hard work that they did with this unusual event that occurred with heavy snow followed by heavy rain followed by heavy temperature drop that created a major ice problem on the island. Uh their crews worked tirelessly around the clock getting as many roads as they could cleared. uh getting we only had to close one day um uh city hall because they had the uh the whole area I know some employees were hoping they taking their time a little bit more on city hall so John thank you um they've also dealt with 57 broken pipe calls three water main breaks uh so they've been really really uh plugging away and doing great as well as the police and fire department who also um had to deal with numerous calls during those uh those you know the last week with all the ice and uh so I just want to say thank you uh from manager to the other employees for just doing a great job. >> John, I want to thank you too. I by the night of the storm by 10 o'clock at night just take a ride around the island and I will tell you that all the emergency routes completely clear. Like it was very very impressive. I had a couple people who had to come onto the island during the storm from other municipalities and um they were really impressed with uh the work that public works did getting those roads open. They said it was a mess everywhere else they got here and couldn't move. I know that uh your crews are still working on some of the back alleys. You know, we appreciate that work. And I think the storm was very challenging because no sooner did it snow. It started raining and then it froze. But I I think public works did a really great job. I please thank everyone in your department for the outstanding work. >> I gotta tell you though, I do have one complaint. It's from my daughter. She was very upset that school was open. She saw the big equipment from public works down there. All her friends in other towns were out of school, but you guys had the school open. So, I know many of the parents were happy, but many of the children were sad. So, it was good. Thank you, J. and go over to our department heads for us. No, over to our deputy mayor. >> Again, thank you to all three departments for all the awesome awesome work you did. Even though I missed it all, I didn't mind. Steve, welcome. Look forward to many years of you sitting here representing the police department. Um, just quickly, are you going to talk about the Beach Office? So, I see that the HV office is now accepting credit cards. That's an exciting exciting move. Um, keeping uh it's just a great customer satisfaction thing that we're offering now. People don't have to bring either cash or a check in the beach for the office. They just come in with their credit card. Don't have to go back to TD Bank. >> And they uh are open on Wednesdays now, Wednesday through Saturday. So, they expanded. >> Yep. >> Awesome. Very good. Even though it doesn't look like it out there, uh, spring and summer will be here eventually. Um, we're very excited to have our new GM that we just approved his contract tonight at the at the lengths, Mr. Mark Mark Kimog. Uh, he is going to do an awesome job and, uh, he is now here fulltime. We're excited to get things moving. He called me today, had a couple questions and uh I'm looking forward to working very closely with him. Unfortunately, the links has uh been unplayable thanks to mother nature, but hopefully in the next few weeks back out flight. That's it. >> [laughter] >> Everything that you said as far as how the situation is Why is it always a weekend? That's Thank you, Mayor. I just only thought it was maybe done with this cold weather on Saturday and Sunday. I think it's gone down at 9 and 11 those two nights. So, uh I think that echo a nice warm spell did all the previous remarks. uh does a great job with everything. still saying please all the people some of the time some of the people all the time please all the people all the time so you know things happen but great job I mean all the side streets and everything getting done I mean excellent and uh Steve you look good in that seat acting acting chief the best of luck to you for thank you >> I'll have to say the same uh course word is frozen solid and that's it's I haven't seen that in quite a long time. So, but John, great job. Your guys were out. Some guys were pushing 100 hours. So, that's it's just the dedication. Welcome, Steve. Chief, look forward to working with you. Sure. And then finally, big big [snorts] weekend. Uh, ask everyone to go out and support your charities on the island Super Bowl parties at the Elks, at the BFW, the American Legion. Everyone's doing something. Yours truly will be cooking at the Elks this weekend. So, like to stop in here all day strongly. Thanks, Mayor. Thanks for everybody coming out tonight on this freezing cold night. Appreciate your support, John. Uh what everybody else has said about you, you guys at public works. I had to go down to Bentner, Margate, different places down there, and uh none of them could compare to the way you cleaned up Brrigantine after the storm. So, you know, thanks so much. Uh, Chief, welcome. Know you have big shoes to fill, but you know, you're you're the right man to do it. So, you know, uh, wishing you good however long, however many years you're going to be here. Best of best wishes on that. And other than that, I really don't have too much. I'll uh I'll say thanks. >> Where do we find? >> Yeah. Front page of the Brickine Times. If you have any questions or issues, my number's on the front page of Breitig Times. [laughter] Thanks for reminding me. >> It's not a meeting unless you say it. >> Yeah, >> Steve would like to welcome you. Looking forward to working with you. You know, as we said, you got big shoes to go, but uh I know you're going to do a great job. So, welcome. >> Uh just quick update on the south end. DOT has begun dredging the Brigantine Channel around Sunflower Island. That's going to be a huge improvement for the residents down there. Uh we're still working on other areas of the island. Uh but they decided to move on that area first and we're going to continue to work on dredging on the rest of the island. We'll keep people posted as that moves forward. I've been working with Senator Palestina to get information on people's uh basically South Jersey gas bills. The delivery charges, what's being reported by most residents, excuse me, the delivery charges are about three times the rate of the actual gas. and people are very concerned because they've seen a dramatic increase in that. Uh, working with the senator, we have requested from South Jersey Gas a five-year history of the delivery charges as well as a breakdown of what those delivery charges consist of. Uh, we've had conversations with a representative from South Jersey Gas and with the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities. As soon as we have that information, we're going to share it with the public and then um we're going to start to look for ways to try to get the gas bills under control. I know a lot of people have talked about Atlantic City Electric. I believe Congressman Van Drew has been working on that as well. Senator Palestinian is working on South Jersey Gas and we're going to see what we can do to try to bring relief uh to, you know, I guess all the people being impacted by this. I know the new governor has taken a strong position on utility prices. So, we're looking to work together with her to try to get something done in the state of New Jersey. We'll keep people posted. I've got some good news for the residents up around the prominade. Uh we're dealing with uh beach erosion up there. Uh we have reached out to the governor about doing some type of emergency declaration. It's under review. So, we're hoping to hear back from the governor soon that will allow us to move federal money that Congressman Ban Drew has ready to come in for an emergency beach replenishment. Uh we're also working with the Army Corps and D on long-term solutions down there. But we do have some good news. We think we have a good short-term solution. Um and this is something that was researched by our city manager as well as our engineer. It's something called a tiger dam. Basically a tiger dam. This has been used in other coastal communities and has been pretty successful when it comes to um it's not named after tiger. It's called a tiger dam. [laughter] But I do think the fire department needs to do something with that. Yeah. So, it's called a tiger dam and um basically it's these huge um tubes. They're made out of like adorable flexible material, but you fill water in it. I don't know if you know realize, but every gallon of water is 8 pounds. So, it's pretty heavy. And you stack three tubes together. So, two go next to each other, one goes on top. It creates um a temporary seaw wall. And that's how I'm going to call it as a temporary seaw wall. And this will add some protection. So it would start at the end of the prominade and then extend 275 ft north and then the top layer of it will wrap around back into the 4x4 access road there which will try to give um a layer of protection um from erosion and from some of the storms that come through for one of the properties that's there. Basically the only thing holding back the high tide storms right now is is a property owner's retention wall. That's not going to hold up much longer. So, we're looking to move this forward. Before we can do anything, we have to get support, I believe, from both the D as well as the Army Corps. We're a managed beach. They have to approve whatever actions we do out there. So, we're going to work together on that to make sure that we can get this done. Uh if we can, it'll be good. Uh relatively, it it's pretty reasonable. We believe we'll be able to do it for less than 200,000. And that'll add some good protection out there. The good thing about this system is once we get a long-term system in place there, we actually can deflate it, take everything out. We can actually use it on other areas of the island if we run into issues. So, this way it'll be something that will help us long term on the island. We'll keep people posted as that moves forward. I did send a a letter out to the residents who live down there to make sure that they know that this is happening, had some pictures and stuff, and we'll make sure we keep people posted. So, it's great that we're able to do something to to try to help people because a lot of the residents are asking what can be done while we work with the federal government on a long-term solution. We'll keep people posted. All right. At this time, um, we're going to open it up to the public. Anybody wishing to be heard on any issue, please come up and state your name and address for the record. >> Head Black Third Street South. I was here a few years ago. >> What was your address? >> At uh 218 Third Street South. >> I was here a few years ago and it was during a presentation. Uh I believe the two gentlemen that did the presentation were retired judges. It had to do with the the court systems in Atlantic County and how we would be involved. I asked them at the time would they be in favor or would they please not hire and I quoted um catch and release prosecutors and I presume that that was done I don't know for sure but it comes to mind now because this past week we heard from the New Jersey governor saying that New Jersey is a sanctuary state that uh is is as far as I'm concerned unacceptable. But then a day or two later, we heard from Mayor or Governor Josh Shapiro saying on at least three different occasions that Pennsylvania is not a sanctuary state. Two Democrat governors, one says they are not and one says that we are. I asked or then I saw a uh a video clip that was shown to the governor of Pennsylvania of Larry Kraner, the district attorney for Philadelphia. The only sanctuary city is Larry Kraner's city. I would like to be sure that that is not going to be the case here in Atlantic City or Atlantic um our our city here in Brien. I would I would ask to be on record this council make a motion seconded that we in Atlant or we in Brickantine City are not a sanctuary city. and if you could do that um open up to the public for a comment and then vote or and if it was necessary u at the next meeting ratify what was done. So my uh request is that you uh have a motion on the floor to make u city a non sanctuary city. So, I would say first and foremost, uh, one of the things I've been on council probably about 12 years now. One of the things we've really worked to do is not make this a political forum. I will tell you that this our entire city will always respect the laws of this land and I don't think that we would do anything to circumvent federal or state laws. Um, I will tell you one of the major problems when you have sanctuary cities is that you all of those people who come in for sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, you actually rob them of their constitutional rights. They're in a situation where they're half in, half out and never guaranteed any promises. And if you look at a lot of the chaos that's going on in this country today, it is because of the sanctuary policies. And I am on record and this council is on record that if and at that time it was the Biden administration before that it was the Obama administration. If they wish to have people come into this country then they should have a legal process for people to come in here and you can't let people come in and then not guarantee them rights. When people are here undocumented and when people are here illegally, um they're in a situation where they're living in fear and they're never fully infranchised or guaranteed the protection of this country because they have nowhere to turn and that is wrong. This council has passed re resolutions in opposition to that those policies. So if someone has a desire to come here, then it really is up to the federal government to create a policy that allows people to come here and not create policies that encourage people to circumvent the system. And that's how we end up today. So this council is on record. We've opposed um policies that allow people to come here illegally, but we also advocate that there needs to be an easier process for people to come here so it doesn't drag out year in and year out. I think the process now could take seven to 10 years. That's something that needs to be changed. I think one of the problems is is that a lot of people um who were in our country illegally are being used as political pawns and it is wrong. And I think that if you have a desire to have people come here, then you find a way to make them leave. And that has been our position all along and that has been our position on record and it's been well documented. So, Brigantine City then will adhere to federal law that has to do with turning over any illegal, especially crime, people involved with crimes, turn them over to the federal officials as is required by federal law. Are is that being done here in Atlanta County? >> So, I will tell you that I can't speak on behalf of the police department because I can't make them do anything. That is something that is up to the chief. What I will come back to say is what this council says is that when it comes to the federal government, they need to have a clear policy on having people come to this country legally and we are on record for that and I've said that many times. We still stand behind that behind we still stand behind that position. So I understand what we're trying to do but we're not going to get into the middle of political battles right now. We are focused on Brigantine and what Brigantine does. our position on the federal government. They should have a clear policy on how people legally come into this country so that when people come here, they can be fully infranchised and enjoy everything that Brigantine has to offer. >> That clear policy then I do believe that Governor Shapiro is following that. >> Sorry, I can't speak for other states. So, I I understand. So, I want to say I understand and respect where you're coming from, but I'm going to say I can't speak on behalf of other states. I don't know what's happening in Pennsylvania. I don't know what's happening in New York. I can tell you that our policy and our statement here is that on the federal level, they need to come up with some plan or some policy so people are able to come here legally so we don't end up in the exact situation that you're concerned about. So, that's something that needs to change on the federal level. We do not deal with immigration policy at the local level. I will tell you that our police will always follow the law. I know they do a great job, but I can't order them to do things. That is the job of the chief. Larry Krasner has specifically said that Philadelphia is not going to go according to the federal laws. I hope that that's being done here in Atlantic County and Brigantine City. Um anyway, someone has to speak up. I speak for myself. That's my concern and I'm sure I speak for many people that want to make sure that we here in Rickine City are not a sanctuary city. >> Right. >> Thank you. >> Yep. John Johnson. >> Thank you, Ed. All said, >> John Johnson, 36 Cokeill Beach Drive. Uh number one, congratulations to Chief Ward. many successful years. John During and your crew, I was out early Monday morning. Major Roads and Briotine were excellent. Thank you and your crew for doing such a great job. Karen, you just said that credit cards will be accepted at the community center. Is there a premium price added to using a credit card? Yeah. So, like all credit card vendors, there is a small fee. I couldn't tell you what the fee is off top of my head, but there is a processing fee that the uh that the city doesn't charge, but the vendor that we the credit card company charges. >> Okay. And regarding our new governor, Mikey Cheryl, she campaigned to freeze the utility bills the first day, but I've been involved. And the reality is she didn't go far enough. So, she froze utility companies from raising the rate. myself and many of my friends buy electricity through a third party at a discounted rate to Atlantic City. However, all third parties are not affected by not raising your rate. If you are a true utility, you are restricted. But if you are a third party, the sky's the limit. So, poor job on her part. another Democratic bad decision with a lot of talk involved but doesn't affect the majority. My next thing is I know we're in Briotine but for over a month when I'm outside of Brigotine and coming home on the White Horse Pike Route 30 once you get to the Home Depot the overhead lighting on both sides of the road is blacked out. So I think I don't know who the right person to contact is, what state agency, what senator. So I'm asking city council to take action in behalf of the safety of the people that come back home at night on Route 30 because from the Home Depot, it's unsafe. No lights are lit. I was there again last night and from before Christmas till now, whenever I'm off, it's no lighting. So in public safety, please reach out to who the right person would be. Thank you. >> Yeah, I believe our acting chief ward is going to reach out. Thank you. If there's no other public comment, I close the public portion. Uh any final council comments? All right, seeing none, can we have a motion and second to adjurnn? >> Like that motion? >> All in favor? I. Any oppos? Seeing none, motion pass. Thank you for coming out, watching your council team at work.