Township Committee February 24, 2025
The committee conducted routine business including introduction and adoption of several land-donation ordinances, set dates for future hearings, and approved payment of bills totaling $2,317,988.64. Officials announced upcoming community services (public works drop-offs, rabies clinics, Earth Month events), discussed operational updates from departments, and moved to an executive session on litigation and an EMS agreement.
Key points
Bills totaling $2,317,988.64 were authorized for payment, including large school and county tax amounts.7:39 ↗
Several ordinances accepting land donations were introduced and two previously introduced ordinances were adopted (public hearings completed).4:35 ↗
Mayor announced public works drop-off beginning March 1 and multiple Saturday drop-off dates during April for Earth Month, plus community events including an April 12 Easter Bunny event and a May 7 community yard sale.1:34 ↗
Concerns raised by residents about 911 calls potentially routing to out-of-area dispatchers and a prolonged public health/code enforcement situation involving an occupied camper on wetlands; court hearing noted.18:16 ↗
Committee entered executive session to discuss pending/anticipated litigation, attorney updates, and a BBT EMS agreement.30:27 ↗
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Topics with timestamps
Ordinances (land donations and zoning)
4:35Two ordinances were introduced regarding development regulations and acceptance of donated land; adoption/public hearing dates were scheduled (March 10 and March 24).
Bills and taxes
7:39Resolution 53-25 authorized payment of bills totaling $2,317,988.64, which includes the school board tax (~$973,587) and Atlantic County tax (~$878,550.81).
Public works & Earth Month
1:34Public works drop-off starts March 1 and will run Saturdays through April into early May as part of Earth Month; the mayor encouraged residents to use the service to prevent illegal dumping.
Community events and services
3:04Announcements included a blood drive on April 2, Breakfast with the Easter Bunny on April 12, and a community yard sale tied to Earth Month on May 7 and May 17 at Michael Debbie Park.
Animal services (rabies clinics)
9:09First rabies clinic on March 1 at Richland Volunteer Fire Company (10:00 a.m.–1:00 p.m.); another clinic scheduled at Collins Lakes in two weeks; residents can register pets during clinics.
Code enforcement / public health case
24:23Lengthy public comment described an ongoing code and public health situation involving a camper on wetlands, animal welfare concerns, and a court hearing scheduled the next day with multiple summonses.
Decisions / votes
- 4:35Introduced Ordinance 153-2025 amending development regulations (to be referred to the planning board; adoption scheduled for March 24, 2025).
- 4:35Introduced Ordinance 154-2025 authorizing acceptance of donated land (scheduled for public hearing March 10, 2025).
- 6:07Adopted Ordinance 151-2025 authorizing acceptance of land donation for block 3005, lot 21.
- 6:07Adopted Ordinance 152-2025 authorizing acceptance of land donation for block 6713, lot 10.
- 7:39Authorized payment of bills (Resolution 53-25) totaling $2,317,988.64.
- 7:39Adopted consent agenda Resolutions 54-25 (release of maintenance guarantee for Teligent Pharma, Inc.) and 55-25 (shared service agreement with ACIA for lead-based paint inspections).
- 0:03Approved minutes of the February 10, 2025 workshop meeting.
- 30:27Committee voted to enter executive session to discuss pending/anticipated litigation, attorney updates, and the BBT EMS agreement (no action to be taken afterward).
Public comment
Resident raised serious concerns about 911 call routing — reports that some emergency calls from cell phones route to out-of-area dispatchers, potentially delaying response; urged better public education on what location info to provide.
Resident reported a prolonged public health/code enforcement problem involving a person living in a camper on wetlands with animals and unsafe conditions; noted numerous summonses and an upcoming court hearing.
Resident asked for an update on an ongoing court case related to an earlier resolution; staff replied the matter is pending litigation and a hearing was scheduled the next day.
Neighbor described continued animal welfare issues (chickens, ducks, sheep, and dogs) tied to the same property, with dead animals observed and concerns about safety and sanitary conditions.
A resident complimented the local fire companies and staff on addressing past 911 issues but emphasized urgency because of potential life-threatening delays.
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like to call this meeting to order. This is the Buuna Vista Township regular meeting February 24th, 2025. We'll start with a roll call. >> Mr. Krenzer >> here. >> Mr. Renard >> here. >> Mrs. Ta >> here. >> Mr. Williams >> here. >> Mayor Raji >> here. >> On January 7th, 2025, notice of this meeting was mailed to the Daily Journal of the Press and dually posted in the main lobby of the municipal complex. All requirements of the Open Public Meetings Act have been met in compliance with the Sunshine Law. I'd like to ask everyone to stand to salute the flag. >> Kurt, will you lead us? >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Approval of minutes. We have the workshop meeting from February 10th, 2025. >> We need a motion and a second to approve. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Krenzer? >> Yes. >> Renard? >> Yes. >> Ta? >> Yes. Williams? >> Yes. >> Rajiri? >> Yes. >> Announcements, presentations, and discussions? There are none. Mayor's report. >> Good evening, everyone. Uh, a few quick items. Uh we're going to start public works drop off this Saturday, March 1st from 8:00 a.m. to noon uh at our public works yard, 4:30 Union Road. Please take advantage of this service. Um we're having an uptick again in illegal dumping. Again, broken record. So easy to do it the right way. Uh lot more effort to do it the wrong way. Um please take advantage of our uh once once every Saturday and this will cascade into Earth month in April. So, um, a lot of opportunities in the next six or seven weeks to utilize our public works yard for, um, any any any large scale items that you want to drop off. So, again, 4:30 Union Road, March 1st, 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon. Uh, quick reminder again, our upcoming blood drive, April 2nd, will be held here at the municipal complex from 2 to 7:00. You can sign up online under American Red Cross and use the sponsor code bun Vista. Breakfast with the Easter Bunny. April 12th at the MLK Center beginning at 10:00 a.m. Breakfast, games, picture with the Easter Bunny. Uh huge egg hunt, over 2,000 eggs stuffed, ready to go. So, please make uh make every effort to come out if you can. Again, it's April 12th. This is a rain or shine event, and it will be at the MLK Center at 10:00 a.m. on April 12th. As I had mentioned prior, I will reiterate, April is Earth Month in Buunav Vista Township. So, uh, first Saturday of April all the way through, uh, I think there's five in a row, correct? >> Uh, yes. >> So, April, uh, every Saturday in April through the first Saturday in May, you'll have five five Saturdays in a row to take advantage of our public works yard. Again, 4:30 Union Road, uh, 8 to noon every Saturday in April. Saturday, May 7th, will be our community yard sale at Michael Debbie Park. Again, Earth month very strategically involved. Purge through uh anything worth throwing away during the month of April and whatever is worth hanging on to for $10. Uh May 17th, Michael Debbie Park, you can turn uh what's left of those treasures into into riches at our community yard sale. Uh and lastly, quick plug, our hometown newsletter is out. Uh very nice, very nice, clean design this goround. gives a snapshot basically everything going on from present day through August with National Night Out. So, lot coming up getting into our our busy uh next several months. So, please come join us as uh early as often as you'd like. But uh we look forward to seeing everybody as the weather warms up in Vina Vista Township. And that is all I have for you guys tonight. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mayor. Ordinances for introduction. First reading. We have two and we will take them individually. Starting with 153-2025 as amending chapter 115 devel development regulations pursuant to recommendations of the 2022 master plan re-examination report plan uh pertaining to lot coverages. >> We need a motion and a second on 153 2025. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Krenzer. >> Yes. >> Renard. >> Yes. >> Ta. [snorts] Yes. >> Williams. >> Yes. >> Raji. >> Yes. >> This ordinance will be referred to the planning board for recommendation of adoption. Adoption is scheduled for March 24th, 2025. Ordinance 154-2025 authorizing acceptance of land donation for block 6712 lot 89 and block 6706 lot 6. >> Uh motion and a second on 154 2025. >> Motion to accept. >> Second. A motion and a second to introduce. Correct. >> Correct. >> Yes. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Wait, didn't we already do that? >> Yes. >> John had said motion to accept. I didn't want to confuse. >> Oh, it's it's Yeah, that's fine. You can accept it for introduction. >> Okay, perfect. >> Um, Krenzer, >> yes. >> Renard, >> yes. >> Ta, >> yes. >> Williams, >> yes. >> Reeri, >> yes. >> This ordinance is scheduled for March 10th, 2025 for public hearing. Ordinances for public hearing, second reading. Again, we have two. We will take them individually. Starting with 151-2025, authorizing acceptance of land donation for block 3005, lot 21. >> Uh motion and a second to open to the public on 1512025. >> Motion to open to the public. >> Second. >> All in favor? I. [clears throat] >> Motion to close. Second. >> Uh motion and a second to adopt. >> Motion to adopt. >> I'll go second. >> Um I'll take Krenzer and then Renard on that. >> Uh Krenzer, >> yes. >> Renard, >> yes. >> Ta, >> yes. >> Williams, >> yes. >> Rajiri, >> yes. >> 152-2025 is authorizing the acceptance of land donation for block 6713, lot 10. Uh motion and a second to open to the public on 152 2025. >> Motion to open to the public. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Motion to close. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> I need a motion to adopt. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> That's okay. >> Uh motion and a second to adopt 152 2025. >> Motion to adopt. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Krenzer. Yes. >> Renard. >> Yes. >> Ta. >> Yes. >> Williams. >> Yes. >> Rigeri. >> Yes. >> Public comment on current agenda items only. In order for the committee to conduct the business of the township at the most productive manner possible, meeting attendees will be given two minutes, all-inclusive, to comment on any agenda items without comment or question from the committee, but only on items specified on the agenda listed for the current meeting. Please step up to the microphone at the appropriate time and state your name and address for the record. Resolution 53-25 is authorizing the payment of bills in the amount of 2,317,98864. Um, of that the schoolboard tax is $973,587 and the Atlantic County tax is $878,550.81. Consent agenda includes items of business which are not controversial and do not require individual discussion. A motion approving the consent agenda is moved and seconded and voted upon as one item by the township committee. If any discussion is requested on a consent agenda item, it is removed from the consent agenda to the regular agenda. 54-25 is authorizing the release of a maintenance guarantee for Teligent Pharma, Inc. 55-25 is authorizing the mayor to execute a shared service agreement with ACIA for the countywide leadbased paint inspections for rented dwelling unit program. We need a motion and a second to open to the public for agenda items only. >> A motion to open to the public. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. [clears throat] >> Motion to close. >> Second. >> Uh, motion and a second to pay the bills. >> Motion to pay the bills. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Krenzer? >> Yes. >> Renard? >> Yes. >> Ta. >> Yes. >> Williams? >> Yes. >> Reeri? Yes. And a motion and a second to adopt consent agenda resolutions 54 and 55. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Krenzer? >> Yes. >> Renard? >> Yes. >> Ta? >> Yes. >> Williams? >> Yes. >> Regier? >> Yes. >> Item 12. Do you have anything for us tonight, Lisa? Um, just want to remind everybody this Saturday uh kicks off March 1st, which is our first rabies clinic. Our first rabies rabies clinic is at Richland Volunteer Fire Company on Main Avenue. We start at 10:00 a.m. till 100 p.m. Uh, you can bring any of your dogs or cats. You don't have to live here. So, I know that this is um played through multiple towns. Um, so it's not only open for Buunav Vista or Atlantic County residents, it's also open for anybody in Vinland or Milville, anybody in the area who is in need of rabies shots for your animals. Um, if you are a Buunav Vista resident, you also can uh register your cat or dog um at the same time at the rabies clinic. So, we can handle that for you as well. So, come on out. Uh, this again is just our first rabies clinic of two that we have. The next one is going to be at Collins Lakes um in two weeks um two Saturdays from now. Um and again, that will also be from 10 to 100 p.m. So, other than that, that's all I have. >> Ours is the best. >> It is busy and we have fun. We have a great vet that comes. We actually play with the animals. Uh we get them in and out as fast as possible, especially on a rainy day. >> I was just going to say, haven't the last few [laughter] >> Yeah. >> been in torrential downpours? >> Yes. We've we've done through all. Snow, rain, wind. Um definitely have done it all. So, >> all righty. >> And that's all I have. >> Thank you, Lisa. >> Yep. >> Item 13. We're going to jump over to committee reports. Mr. Williams. >> Yes. Um I had uh two things. I I attended the uh League of Municipalities um meeting on uh Friday and there we had Mike Sarah uh who spoke from the uh municipalities um and he was uh discussing uh preliminary uh things on the uh budget. He said we're looking at a a a deficit this year on from on the budget, but uh we'll see. >> And also uh I attended the uh Albox uh demonstration for the uh environmental commission at the Dart Martin Luther King Center >> and um Mike uh was the uh instructor for putting the boxes together. We assembled uh 10 uh owl boxes, but he said uh there was uh different types of owls that they had. The barn alowl, the northern saw wet owl, and then um the snowy owl, and then there was uh two more. The let me see bard owl and the eastern screech. But he said uh he said that the uh the squirrels tend to tend to get in the uh out boxes and try to bully the uh [laughter] bully the owls out of there. >> So I thought that was interesting. And um yeah, so we we put those together and then uh Mike did a really good job. And uh also that we got coming up is the uh veterans uh indoor barbecue on March 8th. That's that's Saturday at 1:00 p.m. And that'll also be at the King Center. And that's all I have. >> That was March 8th. >> Yeah, March 8th. That's an indoor barbecue for the veterans. >> Mr. Krenzer. >> Yeah, thank you, Mayor. Uh just a couple updates with public works. The guys obviously had been uh snow plowing, had been trimming, had been doing all kinds of warm, cold, and everything in between weather. So this week kind of doing back to basics. Uh we're doing park maintenance, bus shelters maintenance, uh street sign repair, fleet maintenance, grading dirt roads, building repairs. We have a salt delivery. Our salt was low, so we ended up getting it and that's coming in this week as well to put in the salt shed. um shoulder repairs with DGA, roadside trash, and cleaning out the storm drain basin. So, they're busy kind of getting things back up to to par um in areas that needed. And uh did have a couple residents reach out to me and say the Owl Box building session was great and they really appreciated that. So, that's all I have. Mayor, thank you. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Bernard. Well, I was going to uh also say about the veterans indoor barbecue at Martin Luther King Center. It's uh really good to recognize veterans for for any event, you know, and uh to feed them is nice and the fact that it's indoors will will take the weather out of the equation, you know, and I hope it's well attended. And uh and and on a side note, we've been I I live in Cranberry Run and we've had having a it's a non-solicitation community and evidently recently we've had a a bunch of people sol soliciting there. I just want to tell you that you don't have to if you if you don't feel safe opening the door, don't open the door, you know, because they're not supposed to be solicitating >> in in the township and in our in our development. So, they shouldn't be soliciting at all in Buunav Vista without a permit. Um, so if you do have somebody who happens to be soliciting your door, please contact the clerk's office. One, we can verify if any permits have been issued. Um but also you can contact the police um as they are on the road and they will make sure that they remove themselves from the >> university have been called and come out and >> yes >> we had a few issues last year with renewable by Anderson just going door to door >> usually >> and then they're going the houses looking at the windows to try to see what doors to knock on. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Kurt, how have things been in the park with the last few heavy rainfalls? Are there any areas that are are are >> the rainfalls haven't been heavy enough to really I mean there's been puddles. There's always there's always but it hasn't been a disaster. >> Okay. >> You know, and it and it it's drained relatively quick. >> Okay. >> You know, I don't know how it will be if we have a monsoon, but we've handled these so far. >> We we had a decent one last week and I was that came to mind immediately and I just I wanted to see if there's been any anything of significance. No, just just the normal the normal >> the normal stuff, you know. But I'll tell you what though, that the the potholes are terrible in the >> it's on the hit list. >> Yeah. Okay. >> My uh my concern is the second we start the second we start filling them that we're provoking the gods for more snow. But >> yeah, [laughter] >> it's exactly what it is. >> Thank you, Kurt. >> Mrs. Ta. >> Well, I really don't have much to add to any of it. However, I have noticed as driving around that a lot of our residents are not taking in their trash cans again uh the evening of uh their trash days and uh with snow removal. If we do have any more storms, that can be a problem because we've had a lot of high winds and a lot of these trash cans have been out in the roads which does cause dangerous situations. So, I would advise the residents of Unavista Township to please make an effort to get their trash cans in at night uh on the day that their uh trash is taken and uh to make an effort uh to do that as soon as possible and that's about it really. >> I've noticed I mean you see some people three or four days the trash cans are still at the curb and >> Exactly. >> It's bad blow out in the roadway. That causes a lot of problems. >> Fortunately, in in my house, we we fill a bag of garbage usually every two or three hours. So, there's always [laughter] the urgency to bring the can back close to the house. >> I play pong with them. I hit him with the bumper. [laughter] >> Thank you guys for the reports tonight. Item 14, public comment. >> The committee welcomes participation of interested organizations and individuals during regular caucus, workshop, and special meetings. However, in order to conduct the business of the township in the most productive manner possible, attendees will be given four minutes, all inclusive, including all dialogue, questions, and responses from both the speaker and the committee for the designated public portion of the meeting. There may be no transference of a speaker's time to other attendees. So, please step up to the microphone at the appropriate time and state your name and address for the record. >> We need a motion and a second to open to the public. >> Motion to open. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. We are open. >> Had a laugh and pardon me just for a minute with Lisa when she was talking of the vaccination and whatever meetings a while back. We've been talking a lot about poultry and chickens and with all the problems they with bird food. Maybe we'll be vaccinating chickens someday. No, but really what I I I got to compliment Lisa. We talked a while back about this 911 problem. I know you had a meeting and whatever and a lot of things I heard good reports from a lot of the firefighters. My main concern today is still with the initial 911 call. Uh I know that was addressed. This thing is an embarrassment. Um I I put a a thing on the mil thing a while back about informing people how this calls do not go from the cell phone direct to and direct to the 911. A 911 dispatcher from locality said that they had these calls from cell phones as far away as South Carolina. And I think somehow we've got to get to our residents. You know, when you make a 911 call, you might only have 1% of your population one time in 10 years. with that 911 call getting screwed up. A while back, a call that we were involved with took 20 minutes for the fire company to fire. And when things screw up like that and people not knowing, they may be talking to somebody out of state thinking you're talking to your dispatcher. It's could cost a life someday. And I I when I was here last month, I told you about a problem that we had about 40 years ago when I was chairman of the joint dispatching unit township. A call that came in where the dispatcher didn't do anything. And even the cops, the police are thinking they knew the name and the and the road. It happened to be Capoji on Tuck Road and sent even a police car and notified Franklin Township at a time there was a resident right here a mother and daughter that died in a fire that 20 minutes or so or 40 minutes even the call never came out. wound up their neighbors starting to smell smoke. But when when you're making a 911 call, if we somehow have to get through to our residents that they there might be key things they have to say even to say Atlantic County or you can't just say uh Cranberry Run. I think that dispatcher in Delaware knows where you're at. They don't. And the thing that confuses it even a little more with us here that we are in Atlantic County and dispatching out of Boston. That throws another little thing in. But somehow I would love to see an effort made to educate people or taxpayers or whatever when they do if they do make a 911 call on a cell phone, what are the key words they should put in? Is it New Jersey? Is it Atlantic County? Is it whatever? But uh the problem we had 40 years ago with mother and daughter dying in a house, we thought we were going to have one massive lawsuit, but there was no family beyond that. And I don't think we should have to wait for someone to maybe lose a life with something like this and have a lawsuit. Let's let's do what we can to at least make people somewhere uh know that they have knowledge that they're not talking to at times to our dispatcher and I do compliment Lisa I have terrific fire companies and and whatever but if they don't get that call it's zero Thank you, Mr. Del. >> Thank you, >> Charles. 737 Main Avenue. Mayor, you got the story. Tell me what's going on. >> I think we're >> up to date on this issue. >> We'll do due back in court tomorrow, >> right? I mean, I've been here for two months. before if you've done anything toward like like the resolution that we had back what whatever happened with that like I never heard anything other than that one night about that. >> So we >> authentic like it just disappeared like I don't I don't understand how it works. I'm asking >> I mean really tomorrow is the court date. I didn't really want to get too far into the weeds as far as you know what what what we have lined up for tomorrow and just kind of let that run its course. Is there any thing that we're at liberty Matt Lisa to to really get into or or is >> I mean on the resolution end no because it's still pending litigation so there's really nothing that we can discuss publicly it's still factf finding and information and tomorrow will be key to that um you know tomorrow's date has been postponed for multiple reasons from before other violations were issued other um you know summones were issued from third parties in the end of the Today, the judge made it very apparent last year that they want to do all of those summones in one hearing. And the more you compile additional summones, the further it's going to continue to delay this one hearing. Um, so with that being said, tomorrow is the hearing. We'll see how that goes. Tomorrow, he has a slew of summones to answer to, not only from the township, from the Department of Health, from third party private, um, as well as from state police. So, you know, tomorrow we have to see how tomorrow goes >> and that that'll dictate where we go from there. >> That's correct. >> That [clears throat] sounds good. But remember, we're going to deal with the judge that gave him 48 hours to get off the property, which he never did, and said this is a public health concern in November. [snorts] >> So, the judge never signed the order for that because he was he obtained an attorney. >> I know there's always a reason. I'm just >> Yeah. >> Um update on the latest on his camper and this is a health concern. to insulate around the whole camper that he lives in in the woods where it's not allowed on the wetlands. He piled manure around the whole bottom of it. So, it's all sealed. And now he's running a lot in the woods to another gentleman. And I believe there's two gentlemen. One of them works and he's not there a lot, but he's there every day sometime whether the day or night and the new guy just did three days in a row non-stop working. He's in a prowler camper that's probably dated in the late 80s to 90s. He cut a hole in the roof. He took a little tiny pot belly wood stove and put it inside of the camper. Um, this is totally just out of control. I mean, out of control. And this is we're going on a year, another month and a half. It'll be a year and a half. He has a gas chainsaw now. So, I can just from what I've told you, you can imagine the damage. Um, I just feel like there's some strings that need to be pulled and somebody's got to get contact with somebody. >> I mean, he's he's he's actively >> knows how to play the game, though, with all the >> Yeah, we we advised that earlier on when we first confronted this. There's >> he's he's slick in a way. I don't know if you heard the latest, but he's got videos on TikTok of him being arrested and being a wobble. >> He had pulled out of his driver's side window. >> Well, I've seen that. I wouldn't want me to bring me to this town looking at a guy like that. Uh, but see the disrespect that he has for law enforcement and everybody >> and I'm his neighbor. Nobody understands that the disrespect and the deal that I'm dealing with there. It's everything I can do >> to to me. Have you reported this new um trailer there with the uh new people living in there? >> Excuse me. >> Have you reported the new the trailer? Oh, you have? I had spoke spoke to your sister probably last week on Saturday or Sunday. She brought me up to speed with what's going on. We called Lisa actually did a >> drive by Saturday. I went out that day on a Saturday and code enforcement was out there Friday. >> Brought in a trailer. It's a camp. It's a shed, but it's built on a trailer. Um I believe there's going to be a wood stove in that too, but there's one sitting right outside of it. The lumber, the building materials is through the roof. The good news is chickens and duck flock is almost diminished. There's maybe a dozen, two dozen of each, I guess, because they're all over the woods everywhere dead. He's down to four sheep, which he had six. Um, I don't see no dose. And the one dog was probably not going to make it. The dog was really healthy when he got it, but it's the dog. >> And these are dogs that still run around my yard with no license, no racks. I'm not coming back here anymore. I've been wasting my time. I just want to get the last bit out. Do what you can do. >> I mean, even when I'm trying to be really calm here, but >> No, you are. >> I'm lost. >> Even when he's locked he's locked up. I mean, he's home in hours. We thought >> up again cuz money hurts him. Money hurts. I don't know what happened during the last couple days, but you know, I haven't seen him. He came out, you know, he's in the mood. He's he's getting very angry looking like all the time. He's not happy anymore. He's not doing his little farming and you know living his little life. >> Ripped ripped out of his car by He's getting ripped out of his car by state troopers. >> But you know something like that he puts that on. I'm glad because you got to see like this is the guy I'm dealing with and I'm not no authority. I'm just some guy living right next to him in the woods right there. You know it never matter. But any more anything >> I mean feel feel free to call >> feel free to call on Wednesday for an update on how things went tomorrow in court. >> I know Frank stopped out there the other morning. I called him right away if he wanted to come in the house but he didn't get back to but I did see him but he he's scared. We only go to the festival. If you come in the house and look out the kitchen window, the bathroom window or my mother's bedroom look at you people right here from radio. That's that's >> Thank you. >> So sorry. [sighs] Hopefully uh hopefully tomorrow bears fruit. I mean he's got like two dozen charges >> charges that he's going to court for tomorrow. Anybody else tonight? >> Uh, I'll ask for a motion to close. >> Motion to close. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I executive session. >> Uh, we have executive session under resolution 56-25, which authorizes the committee to go into executive session. Uh we have two items under executive uh listed as any pending or anticipated litigation or contract negotiations in which the public body is or may become a party to include attorney legal updates and BBT EMS agreement. I estimated 10 minutes for executive session and no action to be taken after. >> Uh motion and a second to enter executive session. >> Motion to enter executive session. >> Second roll call. >> Krenzer. Yes. >> Renard. >> Yes. >> Ta. >> Yes. >> Williams. >> Yes. >> Ferry. >> Yes. >> All right. >> And that's it.