6/11/26 Council Meeting

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>> to the republic for which
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justice for all.
>> Okay. Welcome to the June 11th,
2026 Aver City Council meeting in
compliance with the open public meetings
act of the state of New Jersey. Adequate
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City Press. Roll call, please.
>> Mayor Chimpetti
>> here.
>> Mr. Dovy.
Mr. Dovy, can you hear us?
I'll go back to him. Uh, Galloway,
>> yes.
>> Heist,
>> here.
>> Hessie,
>> here.
>> Kenir,
>> here.
>> Ortiz.
Mr. Ortiz,
>> he's not on.
>> Okay. Sen
>> not on.
>> Timbers
>> here.
>> And right.
Mr. Dovy, can you hear me yet?
I see him. He's there.
>> He's there.
>> Rick, you're muted.
>> Oh, Councilman Ortiz just joined also.
>> Okay.
Rick's there. Whether you can hear
us or not, that's another story.
All right. Uh, number four is public
comment. I don't see any public here.
>> Hello,
>> Michael. There's Michael Miller.
Hello. It's
>> for agenda items only. Anyone wish to be
heard from the public?
>> Can you hear me?
>> Yes.
Um,
my name is Michelle Madison and I reside
at 509th Paris and I want to know what
specific contaminants or hazardous
conditions are being investigated or
remediated under resolution number 18.
>> I couldn't hear what you were saying.
Could you speak a little louder?
>> It was broken. It was broken up.
I I heard
>> they asked what contaminants for number
18, which is the Moss Mill landfill.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Can you uh can you help us out
there, Ryan?
>> Sure. So, the city has been applying for
and receiving HDSRF grant funds to
investigate uh an old landfill that was
on that site. Um, I actually just uh
requested a briefing with GZA, who is
the environmental consultant who's doing
that uh investigation work um for an
update. I literally just reached out to
them uh earlier today. So, I I don't
have a specific list of contaminants at
the moment. I mean, I it's an old
landfill, so there, you know, there's
any of a number of possibilities, but um
from what we understand from previous
investigations, it was primarily
household petrusible waste. Um so, there
hasn't been anything flagged yet to my
knowledge. um that would be of any
significant concern um you know other
than just standard household trash. So
uh I'll know more after that briefing
with GZA um but as of right now um you
know they're they're doing the
investigation work and I don't have any
um results at this point.
>> Okay. Is this the same testing that was
done behind the gentleman's house on
Hamburg a he said he saw somebody out
there. Did we ever get information about
that testing? So, we we asked him about
who those individuals were or what
company they may have been with or or
what have you. I never got any
information. So, I don't know if it's
people that were working with that that
consultant or as a subconsultant to them
on this specific investigation or if it
was other unrelated work. Um I can tell
you that the focus of the landfill and
the investigation um at least that I'm
aware of is not in that area. Um the
landfill is primarily over near Moss
Mill Road within
let's say about 250 to 300 feet of Moss
Mill into the property. It starts closer
to Moss Mill and it goes about that deep
maybe maybe a little bit deeper into the
property. The old landfill uh area had
been delineated years ago at a little
over six acres. Um, so I'm not aware of
any reason there would be landfill
investigation work going on that far,
but um, sometimes depending on the
groundwater flow direction, you do have
to go, um, you know, downstream of it.
Uh, there there is kind of an what I'll
call an intermittent stream in between
there. So I don't I don't see a reason
that they would have been over there,
but I I can't tell you for sure because
I don't know who was there.
>> Okay. Well, thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you. Anyone else?
Okay, seeing none, uh, number five,
approve the minutes 21st. Is there a
motion?
>> Make that motion.
>> I make a motion.
>> Second.
>> Motion made and seconded. All in favor
to approve May 21st minutes.
>> I
>> motion passes. Oh, opposed.
Okay. Uh, mayor number six.
Okay. Um, we did get a bulletproof vest
grant for $2,189.17
for the police department. Um, wanted to
let everybody know the clothing drive
for Coalition for the Safe Community
along with the police department is
still going on. So, there's a whole list
of things that you can donate on the Egg
Harbor City official Facebook page. And
a reminder, uh, well, this probably like
three churches in the fire department
will be ringing their bells on July 4th,
13 times for the 13 original colonies at
2:50 on the 4th of July. So, be be on
alert for that. Fireworks and drone show
will be July 18th.
And Cedar Creek Track was at the lake
today for their um, banquet. They had a
great time. and the Cedar Creek seniors
will be at the lake on Monday for their
annual Cedar um senior picnic. I do have
a report from the chief. She could not
be here this evening, so I'll go through
her report. Um
we have a total of 14
crimes and offenses. uh four fraud, one
simple assault, one stolen motor
vehicle, and eight theft.
Traffic related, 13 motor vehicle
accidents,
two pedestrian spot checks,
40 traffic stops, and that's a total of
55
sumances. It's
Am I Are you getting a back like am I
like echoing because I'm hearing an echo
>> a little bit. Yeah.
>> Don't know why. Let me try turning my
speaker down a bit.
>> There's somebody's mic.
>> That isn't
>> what
I do.
>> I think it's fixed now. I think someone
wasn't muted.
>> Okay. Um, no DUI arrest this couple
weeks. Uh, total arrests for DUI this
year, 10. and she has 1,3
uh calls for service
and various things. Um
we had the first graders there yesterday
on their walking tour. They had a great
time. Chief kept them busy and we
visited the uh memorial for the 911
in the front of the building. We usually
go through the city building with them,
but because of the ADA repairs that are
going on, we couldn't. But Chief did a
great job keeping them busy and that's
not easy when you have 45 first graders.
Um Chief ran a two-mile
run for the torch run, the Special
Olympics fund raise raiser and there was
some crash 2 training done and finding
words training.
Um upcoming graduation on Cedar Creek is
618
and Egg Harbor City Community School is
619 and ACIT is
623.
And that's all I have. Thanks.
>> Okay. Thank you, mayor.
That takes up seven and eight. Number
nine, CFO report.
>> Nothing for me. Thank you.
>> Okay. Number 10, city clerk.
>> Nothing.
>> Jackie,
>> nothing. Uh, number 11, city attorney.
>> No update. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Number 12, Ryan.
Engineer.
>> Yeah. So, I I'll keep brief. We have uh
one item on the agenda tonight is um
award of the IBank Stormwater Management
uh improvements project. Um I'll I'll
explain. We had a a bidder who the low
bidder on the project provided a bid um
that the solicitor's office deemed to be
non-responsive. So I can let Chris go
into that if he wants to. Um but we are
recommending award uh of the base bid to
asphalt paving systems in the amount of
$2,271,700.
And the award would be contingent upon
um approval from IBank who is the
funding source for the project. uh they
have a you have to close on the loan for
this project before June 30th uh or else
it kicks to the next fiscal year. So
it's it's normally we would wait for
their concurrence and then award it. But
since there's only one more meeting and
there's not a lot of um wiggle room
there, our recommendation is to award it
now uh contingent upon their approval
and then if we have to um we could
always award it again, resend the
original award and award it again at
next meeting. Um if if you know IBEX
comes back and tells us that's what we
need to do, but in in abundance of
caution, I think we're better off to
award a contingent upon their approval
rather than wait.
>> Question.
>> Sure. What does um nonresponsive mean?
>> So, uh Chris, do you want to go into
that or do you want me to sort of
>> Sure. Um so, since this is being funded
by the IBAC, the IBACK has specific uh
amounts um limits on what uh bidding
responsible biders can can put in for.
And that was clearly set forth in the
bid uh specs that Ryan had put out. and
the low bidder exceeded
the limit for mobilization
um by about approximately $10,000. When
we notified them that we believe that
their bid was non-compliant, they said,
"Well, you can just shift the money
around and do a couple other things and
and clearly you can't do that." So, uh,
we made the determination based on the
law, um, that they were non-compliant
and that they had to be rejected, um,
based on material defect in the bid.
>> Okay. Thank you.
>> Any other questions about that project?
>> No, I'm good.
>> Okay. So, uh, I'll I'll move on to the
the ADA and city hall project. the
reason we're kind of all on Zoom. Um so
as as we got into the project, uh we had
two things that kind of set us back a
little bit. One was the primary. Um we
kind of realized that we had to get
cleaned up and and get out of there. So
they lost a couple days to that. And
then we had an issue come up um as they
started taking things apart. There was
about 3/4 of an inch less than what we
thought we had for clearance between
handrails. Um, so we wouldn't have
gotten the full 36 inch clearance
between the proposed handrails to be
fully ADA compliant. Um, under normal
circumstances, we may have, you know,
kind of let that go, but given this is
DCA funded, and the whole purpose is ADA
compliance, um, you know, we decided the
right thing to do was to modify the
project a little bit. So the the wall
where the end is, um, where Lisa
normally sits, the mayor usually sits.
Um, we actually need to peel back the
carpet and sort of shave back, uh, the
wall support there to just give it that
extra. We're going to take it back a
little more than 3/4 of an inch um to
make sure that we have that that 3 to
six inches between handrails so that the
project is fully ADA compliant. We're
done. Um the contractor has already uh
replaced the uh service counters at the
clerk's office, at the tax assessor's
office, and at the building department
office. Uh the the bathroom renovations
are underway. I think they started with
the tile work today. Um so that's that's
progressing pretty well. Um, again, just
a little bit of a setback there with
what we ended up finding in the uh in
the council chambers.
Um, we
>> will we be ready at the next meeting?
>> Yeah, absolutely. So, we the other thing
we did was uh we actually authorized um
when we when we took the desk out, the
the carpet was actually cut around those
little desk supports that it wasn't they
didn't like remove the desk and put the
carpet under and then put it back on
top. So, we're actually having to to
redo some of the carpet underneath the
desk. But yeah, we we anticipate all of
that work should be completed within the
next week and week and a half. We should
be done well in advance of the uh next
council meeting.
>> Good.
>> Brian, will will Laura's desk be
adjusted or is it staying as is just
like Meg and Jackie's?
>> The the 30-inch height is um what was
selected based off of the description
that was given to us of how the
employees would interact with the
public. Um, I believe we had some
conversations about um, you know, how
how they'll interact. It might change if
if they're going to be interacting with
the public for a lengthy period of time.
Uh, it might be better to provide a
chair at that that front area so they
can utilize it more like a desk. Um,
kind of as a workstation when
interacting with the public. Um, so I I
understand it's, you know, it is a big
change. Um, but the idea was to make the
the accessible or the the facility fully
accessible. So now that we've
accomplished that, you know, then it's
circling back to figure out um what
accommodations can be made to to provide
for better ergonomic functionality for
the employees.
>> So it's not finalized at this point. So
the mayor's the mayor's suggestion may
>> should still take place. The the desk
that kind of goes up and down.
>> Oh yeah. Well, so right. So, what the
this project is, you know, the a
contractor building things, and we're
not we're not going to modify the
counter height at this point, but yeah,
uh a a pop-up desk. There's lots of
other accommodations that can be made to
to try to accommodate uh you know,
ergonomic functionality for the
employees. Um but but functionally, you
know, we we've built a an ADA compliant
front desk
>> that the public can interact with. So
yeah, I I'm I I totally understand and
and you know appreciate that there'll be
sort of a period to feel out what the
best way for uh the employees to
function in that space is. I realize
it's a big change and you know uh it'll
probably take a little time to sort that
out, but yeah, a popped up desk or a
chair at that location or or something
like that to accommodate um you know the
employee functionality I think is uh
probably a good idea.
>> Okay, thank you.
>> Wanted to add some something too. Um, I
was told that
the big uh table that we have in the ch
council chambers in the das there is on
its last leg literally. Um, I think that
we're going to have to order a new one.
Jody, I don't know if you're aware of
that or not.
>> Someone mentioned the other day.
>> So,
>> oh, we can look into that.
>> I want to look into that.
Mayor, is that the is that the mail room
that you're talking about?
>> The the brown desk in front of where we
sit at city council meetings.
>> Oh. Oh, okay. Yes.
>> The the table where the uh staff
typically sits.
>> Okay.
>> We don't want that to fall on your feet.
>> I appreciate you.
>> Get some new chairs while you're looking
at the desk.
>> Thank you.
>> Anything else, Ryan?
Um, we we got approval to bid the
bathroom improvements out at the the
lake, the bathrooms near the concession
stand. And uh I sent some additional
information to Triad today. Uh we had to
put together like a little map showing
where we're proposing to utilize the the
ADA uh compliance funds for that we got
for the lake. Since we're not going to
be able to do the path right now, um
we're splitting the application of the
Pineelands Commission to try to advance
uh the parking pad that we we're trying
to put out there. Uh we're we're
removing the uh accessible path and we
we'll pursue that separately outside of
uh you know this application and this
funding. And then we'll we're applying
to DCA to utilize the leftover funds
after we do the one bathroom to do the
other set of bathrooms and provide ADA
accessibility to the store and the
service counter uh at the concession
stand. So, we had to give them like a
little map and a description of exactly
what the improvements would be so that
they could justify that, you know, the
improvements are like and similar to
what was contained in the original
application. Um, you know, to try to be
fair to other applicants.
>> Okay.
>> So, that's I have a question about that.
>> Sure.
Um, I've had a few people approach me
um about the um the mat going around and
they're under the assumption because ADA
approved it that it can be used no
matter what Pineland says and I've tried
to explain to them that it's a
Pineland's decision even though ADA
approved it that if Pineland says no
then it has to be no
>> but there's a few rumors going around
that it's basically the city holding
back on putting that in that it's not
Pineland. It's if it's ADA approved,
then it's Pineland approved. Pinelands
approved.
>> So, we've we've had
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, sorry. Go ahead. So, we we've had a
couple
>> to make everybody aware that that's go
that that's going around that we're
basically holding back on the on the the
trail the map the map going around and
it's not a Pineland decision. I'm I'm
pretty sure if it was up to the city
that matting would have been down last
year. But um
>> Well, that's what I said, but I just
wanted, you know, to make everybody
aware that that, you know,
>> well, I I'll share from my perspective
to whomever listens to these that um we
applied to the commission and they sat
on our application and didn't really
know what to do with it. And I spoke to
with the reviewer and she indicated as
much like this is near a body of water.
We get applications for trails all the
time. We're concerned that if we approve
this, it's going to proliferate and
it'll be everywhere. And we don't really
understand what the ecological impacts
are yet. So, we want a little time to
talk about it internally.
>> I I'm not I'm not saying anything that
they told me is is the right or or you
know, I believe it or whatever, but all
I can do is convey what I was told. So,
they they indicated that we met we went
up went up to the commission and met
with them in person about five or six
subjects. That was one of them that we
spent a considerable amount of time on.
So coming out of that meeting, we
scheduled an in-person meeting with
myself and uh one of the reviewers, the
reviewer who's working on that
application specifically, who has a lot
of threatened endangered species
experience, kind of lives nearby and and
spends a lot of time in that area. Just
on a personal level, she indicated that
she was in support of our application
and thought that this was a great
solution um and hoped that the
commission would look favorably upon it.
and I met with her in October and we had
that discussion standing there at the
lake. Um, we talked through all like the
nuance of it. I explained, look, we're
on the top of a dam. It doesn't matter
if I put concrete here and there's no
water going down anyway because it's
solid clay. That's what a dam is for.
Um, so she was on board with not only
the the um the material and the idea of
it, but obviously that the location
thought it was appropriate. Um
unfortunately she's only one voice and
there are other people up there and
after some internal deliberations she
advised that um the powers that be up
there um decided that they weren't
comfortable with it and they would not
approve it as is and that we could go
through um the process to develop an
MOA, a memorandum of agreement which
could take 18 months or so. Um or we
could, you know, apply to them to move
forward with like some kind of study uh
to demonstrate how the material might
work and how it would, you know, what
the impacts would be. All of which would
take 18 to 24 months minimum to be able
to be allowed to install the material.
Uh we're already two plus years into
having this funding and DCA is the kind
of funding that comes out every year and
they'll give it to you every year if you
qualify if you spent the prior funds.
So, not being able to spend the funds
from that round of funding has already
impacted our ability to get funds um for
the the current fiscal year. So, we need
to find a way to spend this money and um
they're not letting us do the path
anytime soon. So, that's why my
recommendation was to shift the funds to
other facilities which would be eligible
and to continue to pursue the path, but
not to jam up this funding for it
because we're going to continue to lose
money if we don't spend the money we
have now. So, I'm I'm not suggesting we
abandon pursuing this path. I think it's
a a worthwhile project. I think it's a
great compromise from an environmental
standpoint. It's no disturbance. It's no
um you know, there's no storm water
runoff from it. It's very pvious. Um and
I think we'll get there eventually, but
it's going to take too long to use in
this round of funding. So, I think we
continue to pursue it and once we get
it, we can apply to DCA again because
they obviously think it's a f a
worthwhile project. So, I think they
would fund it again in the future in the
next round. But we got to spend the
money we have now.
>> Thank you for the clarification. I will
let the um
people who have approached me, let me
know to turn to watch the council
meeting so they can get
>> give them the link to this.
>> Yes, absolutely.
>> Yeah. And if if anyone has any like
legitimate questions and they weren't
answered here or they want to talk about
it, feel free to have them call me.
You'll have my cell phone number.
>> All right. Thanks, Ryan. I appreciate
it.
>> Of course. I I just want to say one
thing about this. I've been complaining
about this for several meetings. Um
that's the most ridiculous thing I've
heard coming out of the Pinelands. And I
like the Pinelands. I'm a fan. These
these beach mats are on every beach from
Sandy Hook to Cape May. So if it doesn't
affect the ocean, it doesn't affect our
lake. Additionally, these these things
are located in Lenipe Park and in
Hamilton, I believe. So, other other
communities are using these mats.
They're temporary. They're pvious and
they come up at the end of the season.
You store them. There's no impact to the
environment. I think we should put that
in a letter coming from maybe council
that to the Pinelands asking them to
like reconsider. This is a ridiculous
ruling. So, that's just my two cents.
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah, I don't I don't disagree with
anything you said.
>> Anything else, Ryan?
>> Uh, no. Not unless anybody has any
questions at the moment. I figured I'd
keep it
>> not to prolong the discussion.
>> The reason they didn't want to give it
to us, if I recall, and I think you were
there, Nette, they said that we would be
the first ones in the Pinelands to use
it, and they didn't want to make a
mistake. Well, then they did it
illegally.
>> Maybe bring that to their attention.
>> That may be the case, but I mean, I
don't know what those other towns do and
what their environmental regulations
are. I'm sure they're all in the land.
>> If they're Pineeland, if they're, you
know, in the Pineelands, they have to go
through the same process as we do. So,
either they're not in the Pineelands or
they did it illegally.
>> They're both in the Pineland.
>> They're both in the Pine Lands. So,
>> it's ridiculous.
>> Well, we we
follow up. Your idea of a letter is a
pretty good idea. I think uh it's worth
a shot.
>> So, we'll we'll work on that.
>> Draft it up and then I'll sign it.
>> Okay.
>> I feel for no other reason, it'll be
good to propel this the next when you
know, for the next year, you know, it'll
move.
>> And they don't have to be blue. They
could be tan. You won't even see them.
But like like Ryan said, we're not going
to get any more small cities.
>> I agree that we have to move forward
with and keep the funding and make sure
we get our money.
>> Maybe next year.
>> Yeah.
I mean, I I I suggested to there's
there's two primary vendors of these
products. They're both very similar. I I
suggested to both of them that they
should be contacting the commission and
advocating for their products. Yeah.
>> Because
>> they would do a ton of business if they
got it approved because you can't do
anything else. Everyone wants to put
pads around lakes and no one can do it
and that would be a huge breakthrough.
Uh so it' be a big win for the the
manufacturers as well,
>> right?
>> Okay. Well, Ryan, thank you. Um I did
jump over number seven, but we'll go to
number seven now. Um I have a list here.
Uh we're not going to go by the way we
see. So I'm going to call on Mr. Dovy
first to um give a committee report.
He's muted. You got to unmute.
>> Are you there, Ray?
>> Yes,
>> I'm here. Yes. Um, I have no report.
>> Okay. Thank you.
Mrs. Galloway.
>> Um, yeah. I just wanted to mention that
the preserving the har harvest session
that was scheduled for Saturday has been
postponed until July 11th because of the
council chambers isn't operational right
now.
Also, um for the safety committee, I
sent out an email late today to uh the
chief and the mayor and the safety
committee about an issue. Um get back to
me on that. I don't think it needs a
meeting, but I'd like to get their
thoughts on what I proposed. already
read your email, Nette, and they do
>> I don't think we should talk about it
publicly because of a safety issue.
>> Well,
that's incorrect information.
>> So, um, and then, um, so email me and I
I'll I'll talk to you about it. Um, and
then the other thing is the green team
is involved in several planning
activities. In fact, they're all
bunching up at the same time during the
summer here. uh climate change hazard
vulnerability study, heat island
assessment mitigation plan, and complete
and green streets programs. All three of
these programs require public input and
input is important to get before it's
adopted. So, if anybody is interested,
please check our website, Sustainable
EHC, and uh our Facebook page and the
city's Facebook page for these meetings
that are going to be coming up. um one
is online only and um we did put out a
survey the other day on the uh uh I
think it was the heat island assessment
mitigation plan. So, you know, if
anybody from the public is concerned
about the environment in a harbor city
and our what's going to be included in
our master plan, now's the time to speak
up, not after it's adopted. So, get on
that if you're interested. Um and that's
all I have.
>> Great. Thank you. Uh, Mrs. Heist,
>> I have nothing. Sorry, I couldn't
unmute. I have nothing.
>> Okay. Thank you. Uh, Mr. Ortiz,
>> I have nothing for the schools, but for
the parks, I spoke to uh, President
Kenir and we were discussing the um,
pavilion in the Lincoln Park. So, pretty
soon I I wasn't able to get the uh
pictures and everything uploaded in time
uh you know, work, but I I'm going to go
out there, take some photos and come up
with something to propose. Uh pretty
soon I'm going to make a motion that we
we take it down. Um and then we'll have
to do something else as far as u putting
something in the center. Something I was
going to want to go with for the center
of it was a pavilion so we can um kind
of get back to hosting some stuff there
in the center of our park. We have a
beautiful park and I think we start
utilizing it again. Um
so I don't have anything proposed yet,
but uh hopefully by the next council
meeting I can have something for
everybody to look at.
>> Uh Tanner, can I comment on that? If you
look at um Archway Green,
>> we have a little concrete stage in there
>> that might be appropriate for that, you
know. Um we already have the electric
there and
>> Yep. That's exactly what me and uh
>> you should check that out, you know, and
see if you like that.
>> Absolutely. I had seen a concrete pad
would be good as well because then we
have way more time with it. It won't
break. They can't break it. There's not
much you can do with it. Um,
but yeah, there was there was a couple
things discussed. So, like I said, in
the next meeting, hopefully I have
something for you guys to all look at.
So, thank you.
>> So, are you proposing that we take it
down now and wait for
>> I I would like to I would like to
>> I I have five volunteers that'll take it
down.
>> So, if you want to make that a motion,
we can we can do that. I would like to
make it a motion that we uh take down
the pavilion in in the park.
>> Is there a second to his motion?
>> I'll second.
>> Okay. Motion has been made and seconded.
Um
Jackie, we could probably do a roll call
on this. All right.
>> Okay. All right. You ready?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Dovy?
>> Yes.
>> Galloway? Reluctantly, yes.
>> Heist.
>> Following the net. Very reluctantly.
Yes.
>> Pressy.
>> Yes.
>> Kener.
>> Yes.
>> Ortiz.
>> Yes.
>> And Timbers.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Motion passes. We'll work on the
process of taking that down.
All right. Um, now
Mr. Sen told me that he had a a
commitment with his daughter that he
couldn't make tonight's meeting. Uh, Mr.
Timbers committee report.
>> Nothing on report.
>> Okay. And Mr. Wright, is he here? I
don't see him on.
Okay.
Uh and as far as u finance
redevelopment, we've we've had a number
of meetings um
discussing the same topics that we've
been working on. Um
we had a meeting with Mr. Saker this
past week and his his project is he said
pretty much approved by the Pelands
except for
uh the landfill closure part and they're
waiting for the details uh of that
before they give their final approval.
So once once he gets that letter, he can
purchase the property.
U there's various other things that I
can uh I can fill you in on as time and
things go forward.
All right. So number 13.
>> Wait, Joe, I have a question. Did
anything happen with um the property
next to McDonald's? Is there any other
movement on that
>> from the gentleman that owns Harbor
Plaza?
The only thing I know, we passed the uh
ordinance to change the restriction of
the 1,00 ft. So, I know that um
we've been in contact with the owner of
the the property,
>> right?
>> Randazzo,
>> Vince Randazzo, and his thought is to
put a um we actually had a meeting with
him on Z on Zoom. his idea is to put a
fast food place there. Um, so we're
we're trying to suggest certain things.
He says he has contacts with a lot of
different fast food uh companies, so
we'll see what happens. We we haven't
heard anything specifically at this
point, but that's his that's what he
wants to do there.
>> And has he done anything with um Harbor
um the Harbor Plaza? Is there anything
that he's I know he said he was going to
do a bunch of things to re you know
revamp it.
>> Yes. Um there was a discussion about
that. Again, no specifics. I think if
he's he's going to do any uh big
changes, he's going to have to get
permits to do it. I know he wants to put
solar on the roof. And u we are uh we
are having a meeting on Monday with
Remington and Bernick. talk about the
White Horse Pike Carter and also
Philadelphia Avenue and to talk about a
a long-term redevelopment plan for those
what we call the T corridor, White Horse
Pike and Philadelphia Avenue and
identify all the properties on those two
areas and
look at who owns them, what the value of
these properties are, But, uh, we're
we're working with, uh, someone in
Remington and Bernick's office. Uh Ryan,
you can talk about this probably more
detailed than I am, but um
we want to put a a comprehensive plan
together of what the Main Street and
White Horse Pike could look like and
should look like going forward and have
a a concrete plan on paper to kind of
give us the guidelines to get to the
point where we think it would be uh
really set the city off the way that we
all ride down the White Horse Pike and
we see the eyes that are there. We see
the eyes on Philadelphia Avenue, the
empty storefronts and things that we
need to improve. And we need a plan. We
don't, you know, we all say we'd like to
see this happen or that happen. Uh it's
one thing to say, it's another thing to
put it on paper and and put a plan
together. And that's that's our goal at
this point. The and anyone's input is
welcome. So, we're going to meet with
the professionals and come up with ideas
there uh from from the planners and the
engineers and then uh once we have
something in place, we'll we'll share
that even as the process is going on, we
could share it and and get everyone's
input. So, I'm sure everybody has ideas
of what they'd like to see on the White
Horse Pike and Philadelphia Avenue, but
um again, we we keep saying things that
we would like to see, but nothing's
actually on paper and that's that's the
plan here.
>> Are is there any plans to meet with the
owners of these properties on the White
Horse Pike like we were going to do?
Well, that would be the next phase. And
then it it would depend on what the
plans are and and the ideas that come up
and the things that
>> you know it it a lot of what we want to
do is going to cost money and we're
going to need investment. We're going to
need grants or loans or there's a lot of
things that go into redeveloping the
main street and the Whiters Pike. So, um
yes, I would say we would
>> a lot of it has to do with them just
cleaning up, right? cleaning up their
the properties on the white horse bike
and that too.
>> Yeah, but we want to take
>> we can get together with code once we
get code u committee back together.
>> Totally agree with that. Yeah, and
cleaning it up is definitely something
we need to do and we have to do it. Um
however,
we want to go further than that. We want
to come up with ideas and and concrete
plans of and then really go after, you
know, look for funding sources, look for
investment from outside sources and and
try to redevelop the area that will
benefit the residents of a harbor city
and bring uh gradables to our downtown
and to our main white horse bike
corridor and not have the eyes that we
have now. So, I mean, that's a lot to
say, but go ahead, Ryan.
>> Yeah, to to expand a little bit on your
point. I think um with the exception of
the Waw Wa property and the gateway
redevelopment area, I think the approach
the approach has largely been reactive
to trying to work with people that show
up at your door with an idea. And I
think the um overwhelming sentiment is
that we would probably have more success
if we were proactive and we had a plan
and then we were able to show hey look
we have this comprehensive plan like you
could be a part of it to try to attract
people rather than just react when
people to come to us with an idea and
then we're trying to fit it and make it
work and you know some people it's maybe
not the best idea. Maybe it doesn't fit
with what someone wants to do next door.
And you know, if you have a more
comprehensive plan and a vision, people
can see how they fit into it rather than
just showing up with an idea and trying
to kind of shoehorn it together. So, I
think I think that was the overarching
uh concept.
>> Okay. So, in other words, you want to
have a plan together before you approach
these businesses.
>> Well, we can because we don't have that
many that much uh property on the White
Horse Pike, do we? I don't think it's
that many. So there's I I think there's
enough um vacant or underutilized
properties at this point where you know
we're not talking about asking anybody
to change what they're doing. We're just
trying to come up with a larger plan to
say like hey you know all these
properties that aren't really put to
productive use. You know what what are
we trying to do with these where what
direction are we trying to go? Um, you
know, I I think your your White Horse
pipe frontage is probably almost half
either vacant or underutilized at this
point and the retail commercial district
along Philadelphia Avenue is probably a
third or maybe a little less than that.
Again, just vacant or underutilized. So,
it's not necessarily showing up at a
business owner's door and telling them,
"Hey, we're doing this now and you're
not doing this anymore." It's more about
how to to supplement them, how to build
around them, and how to fill the gaps in
between with something that's a little
more comprehensive and a little less um
you know, just pieces.
>> But another part of this, another part
of this would be to throw out some
incentives to people uh to invest in a
Carver City. And I really started with
Mr. Doby uh talking about storm water
management along that Atlantic Avenue,
White Horse Pike area where uh through
the I bank and other funding sources of
the city could um mitigate that before
any potential business comes in and have
a major component of what the
development would need taken care of
for. And that would that would entice uh
businesses to want to come to a Carver
City, give them a reason to come here.
And so that's one one of the ideas that
could come out of this, but there's
others and other things that we can do
through the redevelopment process.
>> Okay. Thank you. Uh I just have one
other thing. I I have nothing for the
code, but for Rotary, I have um we
awarded two checks for the eighth grade
students at the community school this
this past yesterday, as a matter of
fact. So, that was the Rotary and um
that's all I have.
>> Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you.
>> All right. Uh number
Mr. Wright's not here, right?
Right. Yeah.
>> Right.
>> Okay. Uh number 13, uh resolution to
appoint Michael Stocklo as tax assessor.
>> I make a motion.
>> Second.
>> I make a motion.
>> Motion has been made and seconded.
Questions on the motion?
>> Roll call, please.
>> Joy,
>> yes.
>> Galloway,
>> yes. Heist,
>> yes.
>> Pessie,
>> yes.
>> Kenir,
>> yes.
>> Ortiz,
>> yes.
>> And Timbers,
>> yes.
>> Resolution passes. He's appointed.
Resolution number 14, adopt the
provisions of chapter 48
under NJSA52
col14-17.38
under which a public employer may agree
to pay health insurance coverage of
certain retirees.
>> Motion
second.
>> Motion has been made and second. Is
there questions?
Roll call, please.
>> Dovy,
>> yes.
>> Galloway,
>> yes.
>> Heist,
>> yes.
>> Pessie,
>> yes.
>> Kener,
>> yes.
>> Ortiz,
>> yes.
>> And Timbers,
>> yes.
>> Resolution passes. Number 15,
uh, as Ryan was discussing earlier,
resolution to award the contract to
asphalt paving systems for the
stormwater infrastructure upgrades phase
one NJ New Jersey Waterbank number, you
see it in the amount of
2,271,700
pending approval from the NJD. D
>> motion
>> second.
>> Motion has been made and seconded is
>> this was this was Yeah. This was in
regards to the storm drains around the
city. Correct. The ones that are eroding
>> phase one which is going to be a
fivephase program, right Brian?
>> Yeah. So this section is primarily along
Beethoven uh street um sort of in the
area of like 10th Terrace, 8th Terrace
um down to about San Francisco or so and
then a small stretch over to Argo.
>> And that was the clay those because you
said they were It was clay, wasn't it?
>> Yeah. So we actually just had to uh
repair a line that collapsed at the
intersection of Chicago and Beethoven
the other day. that is on these plans to
get replaced, but it collapsed um I
don't know two weeks ago.
>> So, unfortunately, we had to fix it.
But, I mean, that's that's the rate at
which and that's the urgency with which
we need to replace these pipes. They're
literally collapsing at any time.
>> Understood.
>> Ryan, I did have one other question as
well. I know it said base price was the
2,200
and in the resolution it said 2,800.
Um could you just explain that?
>> Yeah. So that that was the alternate
bid. Um we had an original scope of the
project that we were trying to
accomplish um based on some meetings
with the public works director at the
time and and we sort of picked like the
most critical areas and once we drew it
all out and put a cost estimate to it um
we didn't think that we were going to
have enough funding from IBank to be
able to do the whole thing. So rather
than bid it and it be too high and not
be able to afford it, we did a base bid
which took some scope out and we thought
then we'd have enough funding for. And
then we did an alternate bid because it
was already designed, we might as well
put it out and if you know if we have
enough money to do it then great. But
the base bid um or you didn't you don't
have enough funding to award the
alternate bid. So we have to award the
base bid um which is that 2,270,000
uh price tag.
>> Okay. Thank you.
>> Sure.
I just wanted to say one thing on this.
Um,
>> go ahead.
>> These bids are very close.
>> Yes. Except for the low bid which was
deficient. Yes.
>> Yeah. And and the one at the last one of
4 million6, but that that to me
indicates good engineering up front.
>> Well, thank you.
>> And Ryan, before we vote, just uh if you
would explain the whole I bank as
quickly as you can, how the I bank uh
system works.
>> Sure. So, the I bank um through the
clean water program, which is what we're
getting funding through right now, uh
has a whole bunch of grant money that
they got um for legislation that was
passed a few years ago, a combination of
of federal and state funds to try to
improve water quality and to try to um
provide grant funding to uh they have
tier one and tier 2 municipalities um
which are, you know, disadvantaged
communities for lack of a better way to
to put it. They have like a a rating
system and everything. Um, and you guys
qualify as a tier one community, which
means you qualify for what is
effectively a grant program through
principal forgiveness where you have to
borrow money to fund these projects. You
borrow from I bank and then when you
finish, when you close the loan, they
immediately forgive the loan up to $3
million and you can do that every fiscal
year. So, until they run out of money
essentially. So, we have this project
now. uh as soon as this one is awarded,
we're going to immediately suggest that
we start the next project and get, you
know, the next the next bit. We actually
have a separate planning and design
grant in which is for $2 million of
engineering work to to redesign all of
your storm water systems throughout the
entire city. um and to try to utilize uh
some of that design funding to do things
like um
come up with water quality improvements
um you know basins, rain gardens, things
like that that uh will help improve
water quality as we collect more runoff
from from roads that's currently not uh
just goes undetained into streams and
stuff like that. So um they have a whole
lot of funding available to you guys as
a tier one municipality and um you know
we're trying to take advantage of as
much of it as we can.
And just to add, not only does this fix
the piping and the storm water, it gets
streets repaid.
>> Yeah. Final restoration final
restoration is eligible from curb to
curb. So, we'll we'll do the trenches,
we'll put all the pipes in. Uh we'll
we'll base pave back up to the surface.
We'll let it settle for at least 90 days
everywhere, and then they'll come back
and mill an overlay everywhere we
disturbed. So, it's it's a fantastic
program.
>> Yes.
Hey. Uh, roll call, please.
>> Thanks.
>> Yes.
>> Galloway,
>> yes.
>> Heist,
>> yes.
>> Pessie,
>> yes.
>> Kenir,
>> yes.
>> Ortiz,
>> yes.
>> And Timbers,
>> yes.
>> Okay, resolution passes.
Number 16 is resolution renew parking
lot lease for worldclass flowers to
gems-816-858
Antworp Avenue block 725 lots 5 through
30
>> move second
>> questions on the motion
>> yeah is the lease increase this year or
is it staying the same
>> staying the
Okay.
>> Any other questions? Roll call, please.
>> Joy,
>> yes.
>> Galloway,
>> yes.
>> Christ,
>> yes.
>> Pessie,
>> yes.
>> Kenir,
>> yes.
>> Ortiz,
>> yes.
>> And Timbers,
>> yes.
>> Resolution passes. Number 17, authorize
Ruckers University to restore the
parking area at Dylan's Dock located at
the Acarbor City Lake.
>> Motion.
>> Second.
>> Motion has been made and seconded. All
questions.
>> I do. Could you just Could you just
explain that? Um what what are they
actually going to do?
>> This is a Pinelands um requirement for
us.
>> Yeah. So, it two two things kind of
lined up perfectly. Um, so when we
submitted our application out at the
lake, uh, the first thing the Pelands
noted was that there was a violation in
that a parking lot had been constructed
in the area next to Dylan's dock. Um,
the city obtained a permit for the dock,
uh, but we never pursued a permit for
the parking and and obviously a little
parking area was constructed there. So,
they notified us of a violation. um
simultaneously a group at Ruters um who
had a couple different funding sources
and was working on water quality
projects came to us and they were trying
to do a water quality project near the A
Carber city lake. So originally they
wanted to be on the other side of the
street on the southeast side I'll say of
Philadelphia Avenue on the north side of
the lake um as part of the county's bike
path and um bridge project. They're
actually building a basin there. So they
came to us and they said, "Hey, do you
have any alternatives?" And we said,
"Yeah, actually we do. How about here?
You could restore this parking lot and
you could build a rain garden there and
we could kill two birds with one stone."
And they said, "Yeah, sure. We'd be
happy to do that." So we were able to
cure a violation for free and they were
able to do their project and and improve
water quality in the area. Um, so it
kind of worked out really well.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay. All in favor? I
>> I
>> opposed.
The resolution passes. Number 18,
resolution chapter 159, the HD SRF Moss
Mill Road, SIRI,
$120,143.35.
>> Make a motion.
>> There a motion.
>> Is there a second?
>> Second. I made a motion.
>> All right. Motion has been made and
second. Any questions?
>> Yeah. Uh, is this an additional grant
we're getting for that project?
>> Yeah, it's
>> it's additional HDSRF funding, which is
um funding D provides to investigate uh
potential contamination or contaminated
sites. So, it's okay. It's not not
funding for the remediation, but it's
they pay for the investigation.
>> Okay, cool. Thanks.
Roll call, please.
>> Dovy,
>> yes.
>> Galloway,
>> yes.
>> Heist.
>> Yes.
>> Pessie,
>> yes.
>> Heer,
>> yes.
>> Yes.
>> Ortiz,
>> yes.
>> And Timbers,
>> yes.
>> Resolution passes. Number 19. Resolution
renewing a cooperative purchasing
contract with fleet management.
>> Motion.
>> Second.
>> Motion has been made and second
questions.
>> Roll call, please.
>> Dovy,
>> yes.
>> Galloway,
>> yes.
>> Heist,
>> yes.
>> Pessie,
>> yes.
>> Kenir,
>> yes.
>> Ortiz,
>> yes. and Timbers.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Motion passes. Number 20.
Resolution an emergency appropriation or
a lease payment.
>> Make a motion.
>> Second.
>> Uh questions on the motion?
>> Roll call, please.
>> Dovy,
>> yes.
>> Galloway,
>> yes. Heist.
>> Yes.
>> Pass.
>> Yes.
>> Kenir,
>> yes.
>> Ortiz,
>> yes.
>> And right.
>> Motion pass.
>> Well, right here, but Timbers,
>> I'm sorry. Tim, I'm sorry.
>> Timbers.
>> Okay. Number 21 is resolution
100% disabled veteran tax exemption case
number 2026-05.
>> I'll make the motion.
>> Second.
>> Motion's been made and seconded. There
questions. Roll call, please.
>> Doy,
>> yes.
>> Galloway,
>> yes.
>> Heist,
>> yes.
>> Hessie,
>> yes.
>> Kenir,
>> yes. Ortiz,
>> yes.
>> And Timbers,
>> yes.
>> Resolution passes. Number 22
is refund 2025 property taxes due to a
100% disabled veteran.
>> Is there a motion?
>> I'll make a motion.
>> Second.
>> Motion made second. Questions?
>> Roll call.
>> Doy.
>> Yes.
>> Galloway. Yes.
>> Heist.
>> Yes.
>> Pessie.
>> Yes.
>> Kenir.
>> Yes.
>> Ortiz.
>> Yes.
>> And Timbers.
>> Yes.
Resolution passes. Number 23.
Resolution authorizing the refund of a
clothing bin application fee to help.
Make a motion.
>> Can you explain this one? A second.
Can you explain that Jody?
>> Jody.
>> Second.
>> So, well, we have a a ordinance that if
you have a clothing bin, you have to pay
for it, the application fee, and you
also have to pay a yearly charge for the
clothing. I don't know who helps is, but
>> I think this one was not aver city,
right?
>> They paid it to us and it wasn't a
Carver City where
>> Yeah, I think that's what it was. Yeah,
it wasn't located within the town's
boundaries.
>> Oh,
>> probably egg Harbor Township.
>> Yeah,
>> we could take that fee for them. You
know,
>> I'd like helps u clothing bin. I mean,
it's a good company. They do great
recycling and it'd be nice if we could
get a Helpsy bin in town and they they
uh collect every week and they uh give
you money for it, too. So,
>> all right,
>> let's do a fundraiser.
>> Okay, all in favor
roll call. I'm sorry. Roll call.
>> All right. Dovy,
>> yes.
>> Galloway,
>> yes.
>> Heist,
>> yes.
>> Pessie,
>> yes.
>> Kenir,
>> yes.
>> Ortiz,
>> yes.
>> And Timbers,
>> yes.
>> Okay, resolution passes. 24 is renew
liquor licenses July 1st 2026 through
June 30th of 27. Plenary retail
consumption for Giorgio Crossroads
Firehouse Bar and Grill Renault FBS LLC
Renault St. Lewis Avenue License LLC and
Rhin and Madrid
Shore and for Plenary Retail
Distribution Shore Beverage Canals
>> second
>> motion has been made and seconded. Is
there questions?
>> Who's the Reni Madrid?
>> I'm not sure which one that is.
>> That's um
what's the states? Um, Pepe because I
think it's a
>> Pepe has
>> I think it's for the log cabin, right,
Jackie?
>> Yeah, but he still has the license. He
just hasn't it hasn't been used there.
>> Gotcha. Thank you.
>> Okay. Uh, all in favor?
>> I
>> opposed.
Resolution passes. Number 25, resolution
to support the introduction of federal
legislation to study the Mullica River
for designation as a national
partnership wild and scenic river.
>> Make a motion.
>> Second.
>> Motion made and seconded. All in favor?
>> I
>> opposed.
Resolution passes. Okay. Number 26 is a
public hearing for ordinance number
11-2026
amending chapter 102 titled bingo and
games of chance of the code of the city
of a Carver
and if it's passed it will be noticed on
the AC Carver city website there a
motion
>> I'll make a motion
>> make a motion second
>> motion made and seconded roll call
Joy,
>> yes.
>> Galloway,
>> yes.
>> Heist,
>> yes.
>> Pessie,
>> yes.
>> Kenir,
>> yes.
>> Ortiz,
>> yes.
>> And Timbers,
>> yes.
>> Okay. Ordinance is adopted.
Uh, number 27, bill list. Is there a
motion?
>> Make the motion.
>> Second.
>> Any questions on the bills?
>> Roll call.
>> Doy.
>> Yes.
>> Galloway.
>> Yes.
>> Heist.
>> Yes.
>> Pessie.
>> Yes.
>> Kenir,
>> yes.
>> Ortiz,
>> yes.
>> And Timbers,
>> yes.
>> Okay. The bills are approved. Number 28,
uh, public comment. Anyone from the
public wish to be heard?
>> Hello.
>> Yes. Please state your name.
>> Hi, Michelle Madison,
>> 509 Fifth Terrace.
>> Okay.
>> And I I have a question about the prior
meeting minutes. When will those be
posted on the website?
Jackie, can you uh
>> um
Usually it gets posted right when the
video gets posted. Jody, were they the
minutes?
>> Um if they're attached in the email with
the council meeting, I can upload them
like pretty much immediately.
>> So, yes, they can get I can Yeah, they
can get I'll have them up tomorrow by
tomorrow.
>> Okay, I appreciate that. And I guess I'm
I'm just in a little disbelief right
now. So, I'm just going to have to take
time to process that Egg Harbor City is
going to have a movie studio. Not
something that that myself and I know
other people weren't pushing for a movie
studio. It just seems a little out of
character for the town. I hope, you
know, for everyone's sake that it does
bring growth in business, you know, like
we want it to. But I am concerned and
I'm a little shaken up by this um to
hear that everything has gone through uh
through the Pinelands Commission and yet
we couldn't get a mat installed at our
beach at the lake. That seems very odd,
but it is what it is. Um I'll be at the
next meeting. Thank you.
>> It's our world.
>> Thank you.
Anyone else wish to be heard?
Seeing none. Tracy M. Tracy M. Right
there.
>> Yep. Tracy M.
>> Hey. Um, so when you were talking about
the redevelopment, I was remembering
years ago. It's a long time, maybe eight
years ago or something. Uh, there was
there was some action on redeveloping
Philadelphia Avenue and there was
actually some uh some concrete, I guess
you could say, plans. I I just remember
there was like a vote. you could vote on
c a certain kind of style
to have Philadelphia Avenue match up
with and they had pictures that like
somebody had drawn or something like you
know there was different styles there's
like probably three or four different
you know ideas like hey you know
citizens of Egg Harbor City vote on
these ideas about what you want the
storefronts to look like in Egg Harbor
City and there was some kind of partial
grant like the state would give 30,000
000 if the store owner paid 3,000. I
don't know if this sounds familiar to
anybody, but I don't know if anybody had
those plans still, but I thought I was
kind of excited about the idea that
somebody had actually gone that far to
come up with like here's three or four
pictures of what, you know, what you
might want Philadelphia storefronts to
look like and vote on them. And there
was like a vote that went out. I can't
remember how the voting was, if it was
through email or the website. I can't
I'm sorry. I can't remember. I hope
somebody does. But I just thought that
if somebody actually still has that data
that maybe it's a starting point as like
an inspiration point or if any of the
ideas are actually something that is
viable for you know uh an idea of of of
a look to go towards that maybe that
might be something
>> Tracy the only thing that I can think of
that you're referring to and I don't
believe they voted on it
>> was the NPP grant that we had that we
were giving $5,000 um grants from the
MPP grant that we received to businesses
and we had a consultant that sat with
each of the business owners that was
interested and she did h she did
actually make a plan and showed us what
her vision was. But we didn't have very
many um businesses interested,
especially the businesses that really
needed it. But you can see on
Philadelphia Avenue, the ones that
actually used it, they look pretty good.
Like the railroad place, H&H
Confections, all the batters,
uh Carmen's down at the end, house cafe,
his is still getting done, and a few
others. Um, so maybe that's what you
were talking about.
>> That's probably what it was. Yeah.
Sorry, my memor is a little vague, but I
do remember seeing a picture that
somebody had drawn or stylized or
whatever. But but yeah, if that's some
kind of starting point to maybe even be
an inspiration or if if they can be used
anyway instead of reworking the wheel, I
just thought maybe that might be
helpful.
>> Yeah, that's a good idea. And we did
lose that grant. They're not giving it
anymore. So, we did have it for five
years.
>> All right. Thanks. That's all.
Thank you for your comment.
>> Great. Uh, mayor,
>> um, I have nothing other than that. Uh,
get your clothes into the greenhouse
because this is a fundraiser for the
coalition for safe community. Um, and
that's it. And then nothing shredded at
all. It goes to good causes. It's A&E
clothing. If anybody wants to look them
up, they're right in Carver Township.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Timbers.
Uh, nothing. Thank you.
>> Nothing, Mr. Ortiz.
>> No, I have nothing else. Thank you.
>> Uh, Mrs. Hessie,
>> I have nothing. Thank you,
>> Mrs. Heist.
>> I have nothing. Thank you,
>> Mrs. Galloway.
>> Um, I got a lot to say, but I'm going to
like pass tonight.
I'll catch you on Monday.
>> All right, Mr. Doby,
>> I have nothing to add. Thank you.
>> And I don't either. And I wish everyone
um
to stay cool in this heat. It's pretty
hot out there, muggy. So, is there a
motion to adjurnn?
>> Motion.
>> I'll second it.
>> Wait, before you go,
>> I just want to wish all I just want to
wish all those dads a happy Father's
Day,
>> my man.
>> I know.
>> Thank you, Moshe. I I know we're in
June, but who knows if we'll
>> see you again.
>> It's good to see you, Moshi.
>> Okay. Um, all in favor of the German.
>> Yes.
>> I
motion. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
Good night.