Egg Harbor Township civic updates
Oct 2, 2025

Public Meeting of Egg Harbor Township Committee 10/1/25

The committee honored a long‑time township employee retiring after 35 years, handled routine legislative business (including adopting an ordinance updating township clerk/records provisions and introducing another ordinance about a foreclosed property), approved consent resolutions, bills, minutes and payroll, and discussed planning/development concerns raised by a resident. They also reported on public safety activity and community outreach and went into closed session to discuss pending litigation related to a baseball performance center and a sign.

Key points

  • A township employee, Maryanne, was publicly honored for 35 years of service and announced her retirement at the end of the month.0:01

  • committee adopted an ordinance amending township clerk/deputy clerk and records access/fee provisions to comply with state open records law (OPRA).7:42

  • meeting introduced a separate ordinance repealing a 2002 ordinance and confirming township title for a foreclosed property (ordinance 26).9:13

  • Committee approved the consent calendar (resolutions), bills, minutes and payroll during the meeting.10:46

  • A member of the public pressed the committee about use of special planning board meetings and cited concern about large residential developments (a previously approved 628‑home project was mentioned).29:07

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Topics with timestamps

Retirement recognition

0:01

committee presented a proclamation and gifts honoring Maryanne for 35 years of service in public works and parks & recreation; she is retiring at month end.

Ordinance — township clerk/records (OPRA)

7:42

Public hearing and adoption of an ordinance amending chapter 6 to confirm deputy custodians of records and update fees for government records access to ensure compliance with New Jersey open public records law.

Ordinance 26 — title confirmation for foreclosed lot

9:13

Introduced an ordinance repealing a 2002 ordinance and confirming township title to block/lot resulting from tax foreclosure; public hearing scheduled for November 12, 2025.

Approvals: consent calendar, bills, minutes, payroll

10:46

Committee approved the listed consent resolutions, a bills resolution, the September 17 meeting minutes, and the September payroll during this meeting.

Planning/development concerns from public

29:07

A resident questioned why a special planning board meeting was used for memorializing a resolution and raised concerns about pipeline residential development, referencing a 628‑home development and urging caution on approving more housing.

Public safety and community outreach

13:48

Committee members praised police/fire/EMS work, noted busy recent activity, and highlighted community outreach efforts like 'Coffee with a Cop' to engage residents.

Decisions / votes

  • 7:42Adopted ordinance amending chapter 6 (township clerk / deputy clerk / records access and fees) to align with OPRA.
  • 9:13Introduced ordinance 26 (repealing 2002 ordinance and confirming township title for a foreclosed property); public hearing set for November 12, 2025 at 5:00 p.m.
  • 10:46Approved consent calendar resolutions (numbers referenced 464 through 468/8 as read during the meeting).
  • 10:46Approved bills via resolution (resolution number 479).
  • 10:46Approved the September 17, 2025 township committee meeting minutes.
  • 12:17Approved payroll for September (amount read aloud during the meeting).
  • 41:20Authorized convening a closed (executive) session to discuss pending litigation (baseball performance center litigation and a sign matter) with anticipated disclosure timelines.

Public comment

Asked why a special planning board meeting was used to memorialize the resolution for 135 Long Court Boulevard instead of waiting for the next regular meeting, expressing concern that special meetings limit public awareness.

Stated special meetings for contentious items skew the process and should be avoided; expressed preference for handling such items at regular meetings so the public can follow routine timelines.

Asked how many homes remain or are approved in the pipeline, referencing a development figure of 628 homes and questioning when construction began and how many homes are occupied.

Urged the committee to consider slowing or delaying additional residential approvals due to public safety, traffic, and school capacity concerns, and requested committee awareness when reviewing future proposals.

Transcript (6,169 words)
Russian
channel 97.
>> Perfect. Thank you.
Could everybody please stand for the
pledge of allegiance?
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
republic for it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all,
please.
>> I am here.
>> And where is there? She is. Well, we're
starting off our meeting with something
that is bittersweet for all of us
because after 35 years Oh, sorry. I
failed my perform.
>> There we go.
>> Now they hear me.
>> 35 years.
The one thing we like to start our
meetings with something really good and
positive. And Marian, you've been an
incredible employee for this township.
And you know what? We're here tonight to
honor you. So why don't you come
forward? Ray and I are going to come
down. Mr. Rosenberg is going to read a
proclamation.
You know, I don't think we can let you
retire.
>> Your retirement date.
That's it. All right.
Spell my name right.
[Music]
Maryanne Ralphman's roots in Egg Harbor
Township run deep, stretching back
generations to 1881 when her family
built the original Rocklman home on
Spruce Avenue, a historic residence that
still stands today. That legacy of
commitment to the community continues on
her family's 10acre property and working
farm on English Creek Avenue, maintained
by the Rock since 1969.
Maryanne began her professional journey
at Harris Resort, where she worked in
housekeeping and served the resort's
high rollers with pride and attention to
detail. On July 30th, 1990, she brought
that same work ethic to public service,
joining the Echo Township Public Works
Department. Over the course of more than
35 years, Maryanne has made a lasting
impact across multiple divisions,
including sanitation, grounds, and
buildings. Her responsibilities have
ranged from cleaning the police
department to riding on trash trucks,
mowing and lining sports fields, and
maintaining township buildings. In 2008,
Maryanne became an integral part of the
parks and recreation department when the
community center first opened. From day
one, she has helped ensure the facility
remains clean, safe, and welcome,
becoming a familiar and friendly face to
countless residents and visitors. Beyond
her dedication to the township, Maryanne
is known for her many passions. She's a
devoted animal lover and caretaker of
her charge horse, Zena, a NASCAR
enthusiast and a published author.
Maryanne is also a paranormal
investigator. Her unique role reflects
her curiosity, adventurous spirit, and
boundless energy. Maryanne Mon embodies
dedication, heritage and heart. A true
pillar of the Edward Township community
>> 35 years.
>> So 35 years and she's retiring at the
end of this month. Yeah.
>> So Halloween is it?
>> Unbelievable.
the spirit might find you that
>> well I know this I know Ray is there all
the time
>> and we are missing face every time I
come in there where is she coming out
that's it I know
you know I know this
>> we have um some members of the
recreation partner here that would like
to um say to you here
we all know how much you really wanted
that lamp
on behalf of recreation. Thank you for
35 years of service.
You need to open it now because we don't
want Rocky to be We don't want Rocky to
be the only one that has one.
You said something
like
Oh yeah.
[Applause]
Wait for the chair.
Mustang
usually drive Mustang
the name Mustang Mary and she's legally
knowing
behind the signs when her dad retired
all those years ago from public works
they gave him a sign that said Rocky Way
and two days ago she said wish I had one
that said must I marry But I guess that
will never happen.
>> Now it's a must. That's it.
>> Would you like to?
>> It's been fun. It's been interesting.
Um I don't know if I'm standing over
like it.
Not looking forward to it. It was, you
know, worked in a lot of different
divisions, did a lot of stuff, met a lot
of cool people. So,
it was awesome. That's what you want.
>> Yep.
But thank you for absolutely everything.
Thank you.
[Applause]
>> Yeah.
>> Kenny from shake hands with this
>> right
>> always.
I see you all the time
and you
>> and you again.
Hey um I work in the school system
police
worked in the school system police
and um um very public building. I've
never seen a building so wellkept like
the recreation uh building. That
building is unbelievable. They do a
great job there. They're going to miss
you.
Marian, thank you. You want to stay with
me?
I don't know.
It's
>> your choice. You'll find out.
>> If you stay, you'll find out.
>> Mr.
Anyhow,
so this is a public hearing on an
ordinance to amend chapter 6 the
township code entitled administration of
government specifically section 6-12
entitled township clerk deputy township
clerk. The purpose of this ordinance is
to amend chapter 6 subject or section
6-12 of township code to confirm the
designation of departmental deputy
custodian of records under the
supervision of the township clerk the
custodian of records and to update fee
provisions for access to government
records to ensure compliance New Jersey
open public records act of NJSA 4718.
A-1
and following.
>> Any
>> is there anyone in the house that would
like to discuss ordinance 25?
Seeing not have a motion to close
portion.
>> Can I have a motion to adopt or
a motion to adopt? Make a motion. Second
roll.
>> Ellis,
>> yes.
>> Paul,
>> yes.
>> Yes.
>> Ordinance adoption 26.
>> All right. This is an ordinance
repealing ordinance number 53, 2002
and confirming title block 3801 lot
spruce avenue in the town of Bay Harbor
by virtue of tax foreclosure. purpose of
this ordinance is to repeal ordinance
320 and confirm township titles block
3801 lot one um public hearing on
ordinance number 26 of 2025 will be held
on November 12th 2025 at 5:00 p.m. Can I
a motion to introduce ordinance number
26?
>> So moved.
>> Second.
>> Roll call, please.
>> Yes.
>> Paul,
>> yes.
>> Yes.
We have a resolution consent
calendar number 464 through8.
Does anybody have any questions? If not,
can I have a motion?
>> Second.
>> Roll call, please.
>> Yes.
We have a um resolution for the bill or
number 479.
>> Can I have a motion? Do we have their
bills?
>> Second.
>> Thank you. Roll call, please. Alice,
>> yes.
>> Paul,
>> yes.
>> Yes.
>> Approval. Can I have a motion to approve
the September 17, 2025 township
committee meeting minutes?
>> Okay.
>> All in favor? I
>> can I have a motion to approve the
payroll for the month of September in
the amount of 1,75,043
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[Music]
seconds.
>> Thank you. Uh, all in favor?
>> Tell us how your committee reports, you
know.
>> Oh, really?
>> It must be. And just for the for the
television public and I know some of you
have reached out to us about the mic.
>> I failed twice. But we have brand new
microphones tonight. So for those that
are watching this on television, um
hopefully you can all hear crystal clear
now. The whole system has been changed.
Some of us obviously me. Uh it needs a
little training session here again. But
uh it's a matter of us pressing the
buttons and getting going, but the the
feedback, the the scratching noise and
everything else we get or we had before
should all be gone. So hopefully when
you listen to this tomorrow at home,
it's crystal clear. So thank you for
that. And we want to thank Clark who was
over there for doing such a good job on
this, getting it up for us. It was
something we truly needed
>> for years.
>> Yes. So, thank you.
>> Okay. Township committee reports. Start
with Mr. Ros.
>> Thank you, Mayor. Uh, two things I
wanted to touch on this meeting. Uh, I
had the opportunity to attend Eagle
Fest. This is the first time I received
an invitation. I was not um
crooked to attend schools in EHT. So,
every time there is an event, I get an
invitation. I'm excited about it. See
how it works. Wonderful event. I would
put it on par with National Night Out.
If if there's anybody in the audience
who hasn't experienced Eagle Fest,
wonderful thing to do. Uh the other I
was reading our uh report from the
police department that we receive um
information with before the meetings and
I got to say between some of the
newspaper articles we're reading and and
that report you guys have been
exceptionally busy with a wide variety
of different u public safety issues and
and infractions, traffic, things like
that. So
I don't think it could possibly be said
often enough. Thank you for what you're
doing and chief in particular. Thank you
for your organizational skills and and
ability to deploy the resources you have
effectively. So, I wanted to make sure I
said that
>> Mr. Thank you. Uh last Sunday we had the
uh child's cur dedication of the
baseball fields out there. Was a very
nice event. want to thank the committee
that was putting that together. They did
a nice job and it was uh hard to believe
that was 50 years ago that we lost those
kids, but it was a great event. It was
nice to dedicate those ball fields
and
I'll be the first one to say happy
birthday to the mayor tomorrow.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
>> And that's
how I do your
Thank you.
>> Happy birthday.
>> And I did a Paul spoke about uh Chief
that was very informative and it it
surprises me of the cases in the last we
had to deal with in this community
whether it was high school robberies or
whatever else. So, it doesn't go
unnoticed for me being a prior law
enforcement. Um, you wonder where we're
headed at times with some of this that
goes on. And, um, like Will spoke about
the child care. I I think as Americans,
we're too quick to forget and want to
change. And I remember that accident. I
was 23 at the time when I had a cop in
Point and I was on the front page of the
press. It was a daily paper that we very
rarely see something with information of
those four children who were killed. And
to the group that put it together out
there, that's what we need to do. This
is history of our community is as tragic
as it was, is history. It really
provokes me sometimes to see people
wanting to change things, take something
down, move this statue because of this
change military base name for whatever
reason. That's history. And and we need
not forget that that picture on the
plaque was what the president had of the
four boys. So uh to the group the DNA
was part of it to the child care people
that's what we need to do cuz cuz if you
don't ever remember how it happened and
when it happened and why
uh and to the fire departments I see a
couple of representatives from Cardiff.
Uh our fire department never never lets
us down. I mean, we had a bad accident
yesterday in Glenn in English Creek.
Thank God I heard it because I could
avoid it um to our fire department um
the other day at Broadway in the middle
for a bad bad car accident. I don't know
why we are just having these bad
accidents
going fast.
>> It's just ridiculous some of the stuff
that you see just coming here tonight. I
mean, our great interception to Ocean
and and Zion, it's quite
interesting to watch what people do with
that intersection, whether they're
cutting into the store, cutting into the
Robert Best, whatever they're doing.
But, you know, just have a little
courtesy, try to let people out. You're
not going to get there any faster. And
for the for the people that were using a
double yellow line to pass, you know, I
wasn't the greatest on the street, but I
did the 39 statue pretty well. That's
prohibited. That's why it's there. You
don't pass in the subway yellow line.
So, in the police department, fire
department, everybody in public safety,
you know, um hopefully it'll come down.
>> Mr. Ellis,
>> well, unfortunately, I was at my college
reunion this weekend and I missed a lot
of events. That's my point now. So, um,
do I have to start with
No, I was just saying unfortunately I
wasn't here with I was at my college
reunion and it was some great events. I
really didn't want to miss but um I
always have to give a shout out to
police public fire departments, the best
in the world. But a special shout out to
Miss David Vans. She like me Superman
here and there everywhere. We had so
many different activities she had spent
on yesterday. We had the first little
league football pep rally game, man. I
was there and it was so beautiful. So
well attended and who's there is a
dancer game. So thanks for all you do. I
know sometimes you think people don't
know this, but I will always notice and
we will notice here the job that you do.
So I want to say thank you.
red.
>> You turn it off.
>> Before I sing happy
afterward.
>> Well, Dina, thank you. You know that
it's uh I'm going to tell you last
Sunday was very meaningful. You know, it
it brought back a neighborhood together
and they remembered those boys. They
remembered the family and they you could
see how they healed together. you could
see how that neighborhood bonded after
that tragic accident and having people
come back 50 years later and talk about
it all was just an amazing thing to be
part of. So I want to thank you and the
entire committee that did that because
that was something that was definitely
needed and it showed why this time is so
bright. Yeah, I will say that it's true.
It absolutely is true. Um something else
we did this morning was I'm going to ask
the chief real quick. We had coffee with
a copa and I saw you holding one of
those up on Facebook today. So, uh, a
lot of our citizens came in and said
good morning to you guys this morning.
Yes, it was well attended by officers
and obviously customers of Waw Wa. Um,
it's kind of a partnership that we have
with Waw Wa. They give us uh coupons for
free coffee to give out to the
community. Um, and it's an opportunity
for us to engage the local citizens.
>> Yeah, it was great. Pictures were great.
>> We encourage people to come in and have
conversations. I don't I mean, it
doesn't have to be all bells and
whistles. It can be um, you know, things
that maybe they're unhappy about. I
mean, that that's kind of the design.
Um, so when we have it again, that's
what we encourage. I mean, I want to
hear those things.
>> Yeah, you do.
>> But I thought it was great and I'm glad
you do it and you continue to do it and
not just there. No,
>> you should do it a little later. So,
right.
>> Yeah, I was not that early. I was going
to say the same thing.
>> I should say the gripes and complaints,
we want to hear them face to face.
Sometimes we get a lot of them.
Obviously,
>> emails and phone calls and social media,
but that's the opportunity to come in
and have some good uh, you know,
>> discussion. Yeah, it is. So, I mean, I
know I'm because I wanted to echo, you
know, Committee Rosenberg and um uh
Committ Hass
um
the reason that we put my idea is has
been to sell ourselves and sell
ourselves through the media and
sometimes there's a balance. I
understand that we don't want to portray
that Edgar Townships this crazy off the
hook town, but I also want to make sure
our citizens know that we're busy. our
we have a lot of calls for s service
that consume our time and energies. Um
so when the complaints come in, we need
you here on Atlas Lane for speeders,
Blackman Road for speeders, you know,
English Creek section, they hopefully
people can understand that
we have priorities that we have to
address first and when we we're
available we can get those resources to
those areas. Uh but so the design about
putting um when we saw how active and
busy our officers were over the weekend,
I said put a press release out to show
all those kind of priority calls.
>> Yeah.
>> None of them were real newsworthy, but
the combination of all of them in my
opinion was
>> and chief you know channel 6 covered MMS
MS produce.
You had a lot of footage for for South
Py um of that break.
That was another I forgot about that
one. And like I said, Eddie, it just
we're busy. U So, but M&S Produce uh we
didn't put much out on that. One of uh
one of our uh local
customers,
>> media source, Ted Greenberg, did his
job, does it well. I was a little bit uh
I had a talk with him and I didn't
really want or we didn't really want
some of the information that was uh put
out there during his uh onseene
news thing. Those things are kind of
controls of you know we don't want to
compromise the investigation but at the
end of the day getting it out there
maybe someone will know someone that was
involved in that and um give us a tip.
>> Yeah,
>> I know. Yeah. Normally I'll cover the
detective.
>> The the chief brings up an excellent
point. I I happen to be going through
these codes as an election. I'm more
aware of public image than I normally
would be, but I also spent 10 years on
the board of directors for the
Crimestoppers Foundation. And we had
that same interesting phenomenon. We we
would approach chiefs of police and and
maybe simply say, "We don't have we
don't want a partnership. You know, they
don't want to make the town look
especially on barrier island." and and
Egg Harbor Township, especially from
meeting the residents so intensely over
the past few months.
This is what 61 square miles, 50,000
people, and this is a seasoned,
diverse, and experienced population.
They understand that living in a
township like this, there's going to be
problems, and they would be supremely
irritated if there were no response. And
the reality is it's the exact opposite.
The chief said it exactly right. He
doesn't want to make us look bad, but at
the same time there has to be an
awareness of what's happening and that
your police department is effective. And
that is the better message. And if
that's anything we take away tonight,
that our police department is effective
in responding to what is going to happen
regardless,
that's a good thing. That's that's
something to be very proud of. And it's
something I think that we and the
citizens of Arbor Township were happy to
hear from our police chief.
>> Well done.
>> Thank you.
>> Well said.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh something else I just wanted to bring
up that uh October 31st is the deadline
to file your senior property tax rebate,
your anchor savings, and your state New
Jersey. Three different New Jersey
property tax rebate programs. You may or
may not be eligible for it, but if you
have a problem filling it out or you
need any help, Senator Paulina's office
has reached out to me repeatedly and
said if you need help, please contact
their office right here in Echome
Township and they can help. They can
help people fill the forms out. They can
help them try to do it online. Um, if
you don't have a computer, it's a lot.
It's difficult to do these forms. So,
it's a great way if you need some help,
they're out there will glad to help.
just give them a call and um schedule an
appointment and go on and get it done
and hopefully we'll get a reading.
And the last thing is um Mr. Freedman's
not here tonight. Tonight is the
beginning of so I would like to wish all
of our Jewish friends a very meaningful
fast. Um tomorrow is and so uh and
that's it. And that's all I have
tonight.
So nothing chief.
I think you just have to stand away from
that.
>> Anyway, um I should have got up.
Apologies. I should have got up earlier
when addressing.
>> What's that?
>> Okay, good. Um so, one of the things I I
kind of these are the little things that
make a difference in my mind um in in
our line of work. And uh I told him so
Captain Key um we talk about the things
you know we you see how busy we are and
he's not here to hear this but these are
things like I said that they make a
difference for me and I think they make
a difference for our citizens. So,
Captain Keen yesterday, if you haven't
seen it, a family in town actually from
the Birdland section lost a deer dog,
their their family pet kind of sconded
from the home and it's been about a
month now and they're they're, you know,
at Witsand trying to find this this dog.
Um, I believe that a concern came in
through the mayor's office and Captain
Keane received a phone call and since
yesterday, and this is what I expect
from our staff, I don't care if you're
the, you know, the frontline officer,
the most junior person all the way up to
date. Um, he dropped everything for this
man. Uh, he went out, met with them. He
actually was doing leg work today,
following up on things to find this
family, his beloved family pet. And the
reason I bring again this this is the
type of people we have in our uh police
department. Um Captain Keen certainly
doesn't have the time to get into these
types of things. I mean none of us do,
but we make time um because that's
what's important. Quality of life type
stuff for our community. And so I just
wanted to recognize Brian Keane um for
taking the time and dropping everything
to try to give some type of hope to this
family. We did post that. We shared that
on our social media page yesterday as
well. Um, but again, I'm just giving you
a little example. You got you get the
monthly report and like I said, we put
the stuff out on with I think we're one
of the better municipalities in the
county maybe and even in South Jersey on
the stuff that we put out to the media
because I think again that relationship
with the media and selling our agency is
important. I mean, I think we do it
hopefully appropriately and tactfully.
um because that's what we do.
>> So um and that's why I bring up the
captain key thing. Little thing, not
people don't necessarily think what's
the big deal. Well, the big deal is we
don't have the time because we're
dealing with all the fires, but
something that's personal to that
family. um and they're willing to drop
and but heated and spend hours that he
certainly doesn't have to do a frontline
work effort. So
>> that's awesome.
>> Thank you.
>> That's it.
>> Okay. All right. Thank you. All right.
Is there anyone in the public that would
like to address the governing body?
>> Good evening.
I'm actually gl
6330 mil road. I'm actually glad that
Mr. Ridgeway is here this evening as the
solicitor of the planning board. My
question, mayor, is why was a special
meeting of the planning board required
for the memorialization of the
resolution of 135 Long Court Boulevard
as opposed to it being memorialized at
the next regular planning board meeting
on October 20th.
from my understanding is that one of the
reasons we did we were going to try to
get it on tonight's meeting which we
decided not to because it's young
people. So the reason we had it we have
to memorialize resolutions
um and that's what we did. So young and
poor is a holiday that we knew was going
to happen. So,
couldn't it have waited until the
October 20th meeting to be memorialized
as opposed to having a special meeting
where perhaps the public would not have
necessarily been aware of a special
meeting unless they were looking at your
calendar. So, we had told the public
that night that there was going to be a
meeting that night. So, they knew.
Anyone that was interested in maths
right now. Um, could we have done
hindsight's 2020? Yeah, we could have.
Okay. I just I had um trouble when we
start to have special meetings for
things as opposed to letting them occur
naturally with the timeline with people
who are expecting a zoning board meeting
to be the first meeting of the month,
the Monday of the month. Township
community meetings being are the way
they are on Wednesdays. Planning board
meetings being the way they are. And
when we start having special meetings
for certain things, it starts to skew
the process. In my opinion, only as an
interested taxpayer, who actually my
opinion, I have to agree with you. They
stand out, but I can also tell you this
in as long as I've been mayor and Paul
was mayor, I, you know, I'm sure we've
had a few, we've had a few special
meetings, but in the course of a year's
time, there might be one or two maximum.
So, that's something that we're very
cognizant of. This one was delayed for
over 6 months because of um a couple
different things over the time, but we
just wanted to get it done. Well, I I
agree with you, mayor, and I think
because of the tumultuous nature of the
topic and the back and forth multiple
times with it going from township
committee to back to the planning board,
back to township committee, back to the
planning board gives even more of a
reason why it shouldn't have been a
special meeting and it should have been
at a regular uh planning board. Well, I
can tell you just like we did when the
windmills were coming in and starting to
talk about things here at every meeting,
whether it was planning board, zoning
board, or tantal committee, we let
everybody in the audience know what
we're doing. When we're doing, we give
them our phone numbers to call if you
have any questions. So, we want to make
sure that we have full disclosure when
we're doing this cuz you're right. The
public needs to know when issues are hot
topic issues. They will they mean they
need to know the mundane issues, too,
but uh hot topic brings people out. So,
and this is a public issue.
>> It was it is second question. As an
interested taxpayer, can you tell me how
many more homes are on the block or on
set for approval to be built as we move
forward?
That's a bit of a loaded question
because it's unloaded. I'm just
there's there was a development from
2008 that had been approved. So, how
many homes is that? I think it's 628
homes.
>> And where is that?
>> That's on road. And when is the
anticipated construction supposed to
begin on that? It already has.
>> It already has.
>> Oh, there's people living. How many? And
are there any other uh buildings,
residential buildings that are in the
pipeline? There are. I'll be honest with
you. I don't have a list of them all. I
mean, there's a development by Pack
Farms, uh, which is an area, I believe.
Yes. Yes. So, and that's where I lead
into this.
Are you all right, Miss Dolls?
>> No.
>> Pain.
Um, it's my understanding, and please
correct me if I'm incorrect,
that although Prime Lands has a lot to
say about what we need to build and
where we can build it and we have to do
it, the caper zone is a lot more lenient
with the fact that we necessarily do not
have to approve residential building in
a cafer zone.
Well, it depends. It's going to depend
on if it's if they need certain type of
variances that they may not get. Um, I'm
going to John, I might turn this to you
in a minute because if you start to get
into planning and zoning issues and the
legalities of them, I'm not a lawyer.
I'm an accountant. So, obviously that's
taxpayers. So, but no, I mean there's
buildings the difference between finance
and keer is is big, but they both guide
how things are done in those areas and
we have to follow what their rules are.
>> Absolutely. I'm an old follower from A
to Z
>> and that so whether it's
>> whether it's in Pine Islands or Caffra
>> really only indicates that there is a
state regulatory system that also
applies to the development on that site.
So, Edgar Township has a land
development ordinance. That's what the
developer initially has to apply uh
under there's a determination whether
the use is permitted in the particular
zoning district. There's all kinds of
other lot size. It's it's a fairly
detailed analysis that goes on and then
if the land use board approves or is
compelled to approve a housing
development, it still has to get
approved by the state of New Jersey,
whether that's CAFRA under the coastal
area review act
or whether it's New Jersey Act through
the prime commission, right? Um so we
never escape it. It always drapes over
those projects if they're in those
jurisdictions. We got the way you should
think about it is it's it's the layers
of regulation on top of the property.
The first one is the local the municipal
regulation. Then the county depending on
where it's located and what the roadways
surrounding are. They get to look at
things. Then it goes up to the state.
They all and until you get them all
done, nothing happens. So even if you
were to to your question about the
number of housing units that are on in
the pipeline or planned, um the town
frequently doesn't know until the
building permit is issued because even
if you get a land use approval that says
you can do certain things, if DPP their
contradiction approval says we don't
agree or you have to do these other
things, those homes may never be built.
don't know. Um, so and a lot of that is
because of the over uh arching different
regulatory schemes that come up with
these properties if you're talking about
Catherine.
>> Well, I just think and and it's twofold.
One, we talk tonight about traffic. We
talk tonight about accidents. We talk
tonight about how busy everybody is. our
fire department or police department or
EMTs.
I would hope that the committee,
whether it be someone on the planning
board, members of the zoning board, or
ultimately the committee itself, would
take into consideration any more
residential building projects coming
into our town and maximizing even more
of what we can't handle ourselves. I
mean, we truly truly need to put a brace
on the residential building that's going
on in our township. Not only for from a
safety perspective, but also from a
board of education perspective.
More houses, more children, more buses.
But here's the problem, Mr. Dilly, is
we have residential areas in this town.
the people own property. They are
allowed to do it. We can't stop and
we'll be sued for that. So, there's
things we can stop. There's things we
can slow down, but there's things we
can't stop. And I think Mr. Ridgeway,
there are things you'll
There's things we just can't stop. You
know, that 628 home project is 950
homes.
>> Um, we got it scaled back 300 homes,
which is insane. When you look at the
numbers, we understand. I mean, that
didn't come under any of this here. That
was long before we were all here. But
these are the things that we have to
deal with daily when people come in. If
a developer comes in and legally they're
buying property that is all residential
and they are meeting all the criteria
for that area, there's not a whole lot
any not just in Cumber Township. This is
Galloway, Lynwood, North. This is all of
us. We have to abide by what's there.
And that's why we try to take our time
and we try to make sure we do things. We
also try to keep the school up to date
with what's coming in. Um we try to get
senior developments when we can get
senior developments. Um just keep the
school with numbers down. I'm just
asking for your wisdom and your thoughts
that going forward as seated here today
that if anything else comes before you
that can be
slowed down, delayed, told no uh
something because there have been
projects that have been turned down in
our township.
>> Absolutely. 220 homes. Okay. So it's not
that it doesn't happen, but I'm just I'm
just requesting for all of the reasons
that I mentioned and that's the only
reason that I'm mentioning.
>> Oh, I guess we all understand that
>> and that you you take it into
consideration along with my um thoughts
on the special meeting situation. I
appreciate all of you very much.
>> Thank you. Thanks for comments. Is there
anyone else would like to address
Governor M? Seeing none, I have a motion
to close the public hearing.
Second. All in favor? I
second.
>> Do we have a need for a close session?
>> We do, mayor. Uh we need a a close
session in order to discuss pending
litigation.
>> Okay. And we will be taking action after
the close session.
>> Uh we I think there will be the
likelihood of formal action after that
um uh close session. Right.
>> And I think that's probably
>> okay. All right. So, I would like to ask
all the members of the public to please
make the room. You're more than welcome
to sit out there and come back. It's
going to be one item.
>> Read the resolution.
>> Do you want to read that?
>> I have a second.
>> Yes.
>> And I um
>> You want to read it to me?
>> I'll read it first. Resolution 480
authorizes attachment of committee to
convene in close executive session to
discuss matters which may involve
personnel and illegal matters. Whereas
the open public meetings act permits the
exclusion of public from meeting in
certain circumstances. And whereas this
public body is of the opinion of
circumstances presently exist and
whereas the governing body wishes to
discuss to discuss matters more than
personnel under legal matters as
follows. We have two legal matters. want
to be an update on the baseball
performance center litigation and
anticipate disclosure one year. That's
what Mr. Ridgway is talking about. And I
have an update on the sign and
anticipated disclosure of one year.
Whereas the minutes will be kept unless
the matter involving the confidentiality
of the above no longer requires that
confidentiality. The minutes can be made
public. Now therefore be it resolved by
council committee council county of
Atlantic State of New Jersey that the
public be excluded from this meeting.
>> Thank you. Can I have a motion to go?
Second roll call, please.
>> Yes.
And
>> yes. Thank you.