10-20-2025 - Township of Hamilton Committee Meeting
The committee recognized Chief Sam Brown's retirement and handled several operational items: adoption of multiple land-sale ordinances, authorization of stormwater mapping services, and short-term extensions for solid waste contracts. They also introduced an ordinance changing pay-per-run payout dates, approved shared traffic-message equipment, made a personnel appointment to the Municipal Alliance, and approved the bills and consent agenda.
Key points
Proclamation honoring Chief Sam Brown on his retirement after 28 years of service.1:32 ↗
Ordinances selling multiple township lots (blocks on Fulton, Mobile, Trenton, Market) were adopted.13:42 ↗
Resolution accepted Remington & Vernick proposal to update GIS/as-built stormwater mapping for MS4 compliance, not to exceed $50,000 (with a $25,000 grant to offset cost noted later).18:14 ↗
Two-month extensions (Nov 1–Dec 31, 2025) were approved for solid waste collection shared-service agreements with the Atlantic County Utilities Authority and the Board of Education.19:45 ↗
Ordinance introduced to change pay-per-run payout dates so firefighters receive annual payouts before year-end.18:14 ↗
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Topics with timestamps
Chief Brown retirement proclamation
1:32committee presented a proclamation recognizing Chief Sam Brown's career, education, awards, and service to the township on his retirement.
Late agenda additions
6:07Several late agenda items were added, including two-month extensions for solid-waste services, a shared-services agreement for messaging and speed signs, and the Remington & Vernick stormwater mapping proposal.
Best practices inventory
7:38township scored 39 of 44 on the state best-practices checklist (above the 32 minimum); committee authorized acknowledgment to ensure receipt of annual state aid.
Pay-per-run program date change
18:14An ordinance was introduced to shift the pay-per-run payout period so annual payments are made before year-end; 2025 will be a shortened reporting period to transition the schedule.
Stormwater/GIS mapping contract
18:14A proposal from Remington & Vernick to create/update GIS and as-built stormwater system mapping for NJ DEP MS4 compliance was accepted with a not-to-exceed amount of $50,000; administrator later noted a $25,000 grant to offset cost.
Solid waste shared services extensions
19:45Two-month extensions (Nov 1–Dec 31, 2025) were approved for shared-services agreements with Atlantic County Utilities Authority and the Hamilton Township Board of Education for solid waste collection.
Decisions / votes
- 13:42Adopted ordinance 2116-2025 authorizing sale of lots 1–8 in block 318 (Fulton Avenue).
- 15:13Adopted ordinance 2117-2025 authorizing sale of lots 15–20 and 27–33 in block 318 (Mobile and Trenton avenues).
- 16:43Adopted ordinance 2118-2025 authorizing sale of lots 36–37 in block 318 (Trenton and Market).
- 18:14Introduced ordinance 2119-2025 amending the pay-per-run program payout dates (public hearing set for Nov 10, 2025).
- 18:14Authorized acceptance of Remington & Vernick proposal for stormwater/GIS mapping for MS4 compliance, not to exceed $50,000.
- 19:45Approved two-month extension (Nov 1–Dec 31, 2025) of shared solid-waste collection agreement with Atlantic County Utilities Authority.
- 19:45Approved two-month extension (Nov 1–Dec 31, 2025) of interlocal solid-waste collection agreement with Hamilton Township Board of Education.
- 21:15Authorized shared-services agreement with Atlantic County for three highway digital messaging boards and three speed-feedback signs for Nov–Dec period and authorized mayor to sign.
Public comment
Resident questioned apparent discrepancy in the Remington & Vernick contract amount (front page figures vs. the $50,000 resolution) and sought clarification.
Resident asked about the new building inspector's hours (reported to be 7–3) and noted concerns about the inspector commuting from outside the area and being provided a township vehicle.
Transcript (4,779 words)
I'd like to call the meeting to the Township of Hamilton Committee to order. Monday, October 20th, 2025. Please stand for the flag salute to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Adequate notice of this meeting has been provided pursuant to the New Jersey open public meetings law by posting a notice of this meeting on the bulletin board in the municipal building and by transmitting notice of this meeting to the press of Atlantic City, the Star Ledger and the Atlantic County Record on January the 8th, 2025. Mr. Cheek >> here. >> Dr. Nelson here. >> Mr. Patali here. >> Dr. Witherspoon here. >> Mayor Shanker >> here. >> Could we have a moment of silence for private reflection? Thank you. Uh, first we have a proclamation for Chief Sam Brown's retirement. are dead. >> Good evening. >> State my name. Uh, Deputy Mayor Carl Pati. >> Okay. So, we're here to to recognize Mr. Sam Brun. Chief Sam Brun. I guess you're Chief for Life, right? We can call you Chief for Life. Gotcha. Whereas Greg Sam Bron has been a resident of Maze Landing for 27 years, graduated from Stockton University in 1995 with a Bachelor of Arts in criminal justice and was hired by the Township of Hamilton Police Department in 1997. Whereas Greg Samron was assigned to various units over his 28 years including patrol officer, afterchool resource officer, patrol officer, officer in charge, patrol sergeant, K-9 supervisor, lieutenant, patrol division and professional standards. Whereas in 2019, Greg Sam Brun achieved the rank of chief of police. Whereas Greg Sam Brun was also the Township of Hamilton emergency management coordinator and had oversight of all township fire departments. Whereas Greg Sam Brun has received numerous certificates for professional training in multiple areas including municipal finance from Ruckers University, certification from the New Jersey State Chiefs Command and Leadership Academy, Police Executive Institute and certification from New Jersey State Chiefs and Command and Leadership Academy, West Point Command and Leadership School. He also continued to further his education and received a master of administr administrative science from Fairley Dickinson University in 2012. Whereas during his career, Chief Sam Brun has received multiple awards including the gallantry star and law enforcement officer of the year in 2010. Now therefore, be a proclaimed that we, the Township Committee of the Township of Hamilton, County of Atlantic, State of New Jersey, on this day, October 20th, 2025, recognize Greg Samron in honor of his devotion to the residents of the Township of Hamilton. We take this opportunity to express our heartfelt appreciation for a job very well done. And we hereby offer to Chief CM Bruns on his retirement and our best wishes to him for continued success, happiness, and good health in the years to come. Absolutely. >> I'm going to keep it brief. Um, first of all, I want to thank the committee for for recognizing me tonight. I'd like to thank my family for being here. Um, if it wasn't for them, I couldn't have gotten through this last 27 years. So, I started my career out in Avalon. Um, and I came there. I was there for like six months and I found my home in Hamilton Township or the Township of Hamilton. And I've been here ever since. Um, there's probably only one person in this room that probably loves Hamilton Township more than me, and it's that man right there, Jack Percy. >> Um, right. >> Yeah. But listen, it's been an honor to serve the the citizens of this township for the last 27 plus years. Um, it's meant a lot to me and just because I'm retired doesn't mean that I'm going to stop fighting the demons in the township because I'll always do that. And uh, so you might see me in a different capacity, I guess you would say. But uh, thank you all for coming. I'm very humbled and uh, thank you again. I know you do. Okay. All right. Additions, deletions, late agenda items to be considered for action tonight. The additions we have is 6B, resolution to authorize extension of shared services agreement for solid waste collection services with the Atlantic County Utilities Authority for a period of 2 months November 1st to 2025 through December 31st of 2025. 6 C resolution to authorize the extension of interlocal services agreement for waste solid waste collection services with the Hamilton Township Board of Education for the period of 2 months November 1st 2025 through December 31st 2025. 6D resolution authorizing the execution of SE shared services between the township of Hamilton and Atlantic County for the use of three highway digital messaging boards and three speed FA feedback signs for a period of 1126 through 123130 and authorizing the MA mayor to sign the same. There is one change 6A to is to read resolution authorizing acceptance of a proposal from Remington Vernick for survey services to create and update GIS and asbuilt storm water system mapping and the remainder of the storm water assets for the New Jersey DP MS4 compliance amount not to exceed $50,000. >> So moved. >> Second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. Any questions, comments? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. >> All those opposed. The eyes have it. Uh, number two, early public comment on agenda items excluding items listed for public hearings. >> We have no one signed up. Mayor, >> no one signed up. Okay. Uh, discussions. Formal action may be taken. Excuse me. Resolution acknowledging completion of best practices inventory. Brad, if you'd like to uh give us a little update on this, please. >> So, this best practices is part of the checklist for the state of New Jersey every year that we have to complete. Uh this is in order to get our annual state aid >> from uh state. And uh this year we got 39 out of 44, >> okay, >> off of the list, which is uh pretty good. We let at the uh minimum is 32. So, we did better than we did last year. >> Um, every year it seems like we're getting a little bit better. >> Good. >> But the the most important thing is we will get our state aid. So, just need committee's authorization. All right. Thank you. Anybody have any questions, discussion? No. Do we need to pass a resolution for this? >> Yes, mayor. There is a resolution. >> Okay. committee. What's your pleasure? >> So move. >> Second. We have >> a motion. We have a second. Any questions or concerns? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. >> All those opposed. Eyes have it. Uh B is a payto-run program. We're going to change the payout dates. Uh Brett, if you'd like to uh elaborate on that a little bit, please. So, the fire chiefs, we had a ESAB meeting a couple weeks ago, and the fire chiefs requested that the payout for the pay per run, their annual payout be changed. Um, so they receive it in late November for the holidays would be almost like a Christmas tree fund for the firefighters. Okay. >> Same amount, nothing's going to change. It's going to be just a different date they actually receive their checks. All right. Any questions? >> Question. >> Yes. >> Um, number five. Should that go before we do three B, the actual ordinance? >> Well, we'll introduce the ordinance later in the meeting. >> Okay. But I thought Okay. I was under the impression that the paid to run program was in reference to B >> 3B. It is. We're just discussing. So 3B is just the discussion and um we moved the introduction down to down to 5A. >> Okay. So it's just was a discussion, >> right? Yes. >> Okay. Sorry. Thank you. >> Are you going to pay out uh for the month of December after December or so they can close out the books cleanly or are you going to hold that till next year? >> Because you're you're cutting the check in November, right? >> This would be for next year, right? >> Correct. So we slid the scale. You'll see in the the ordinance for 25 we went from January 1st till the end of September. So there's a 9 month. So moving forward will always be annual the year but we accounted for that shorter period through 2025. So that's in the ordinance that counts for that as well. >> Okay. Going to do a cruel on that. Okay. Okay. So, we will bring this up later in the meeting and unless anybody has any more comments, questions, we'll move on to see assistant taxes assessor position. Um, we we our deputy tax assessor is no longer with us. So, a few months ago, our deputy tax assessor left. He took another position. Uh, we've advertised for the for his replacement twice. We haven't received any applicants. The tax assessor asked if we could change the position to an assistant, which would not require the certification, >> right? >> Um, we would remove the deputy position, replace it with the assistant, and advertise the applicable salary, which would be less than what we're paying the deputy. >> Okay. Very good. Anybody have any questions? >> Is this I just had one question. Is this something that is already standard in the um personnel? You know, >> so that's what we're we're looking for permission to amend the salary ordinance to >> Right. That's what I meant to say. You want to amend the salary ordinance. So is this amending it? >> This is just authorizing our solicitor to prepare an amended ordinance to be introduced at the next meeting. >> Okay. because it didn't say that >> there's the need to be voted on. >> So, this doesn't need to be voted on. >> No, nothing. This is just one for discussion. >> Okay. Gotcha. >> We just want to make sure everybody's on board with this. Okay. So, we'll we'll bring it back as an ordinance. >> Uh any comments? Everybody? Okay. >> I'm okay. >> All right. Uh so we'll move on to um number four, public hearing, adoption of ordinances. Ordinance 2116/2025, an ordinance authorizing the sale of lots 1 through 8 in block 318, which is a total of.459 459 acres on Fulton Avenue as shown on the tax map of the township of Hamilton and granting to the owner or owners of said real property contiguous to the right the same the right of to prior refusal to purchase such land in the township of Hamilton County of Atlantic and state of New Jersey. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone here that'd like to speak? Motion to close the public. We have >> a motion to close the public portion. We have a second. >> Second. >> Any questions? >> Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> All those opposed. The eyes have it. Um the chair will >> motion to adopt ordinance 2116 TAC 2025. >> Thank you. >> Second. A >> motion. We have a second. >> Are there any questions, comments? Rita, could we do a roll call vote, please? >> Mr. Chief, yes. >> Dr. Nelson, >> yes. >> Mr. Patali, yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon, >> yes. >> Mayor Shanker, >> yes. >> Oh, yes. And adopted. >> Thank you. B. Ordinance 2117-2025. An ordinance authorizing the sale of lots 15 through 20 and 27- 33 in block 318, which is a total of.91 acres on Mobile and Trenton avenues. uh as shown on the tax map of the township of Hamilton granting the to the owner or owners of said real property contiguous to the same the right of right of prior refusal to purchase such land in the township of Hamilton County of Atlantic state of New Jersey. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone in the public like to speak? >> Motion to close. Second. >> Got a motion motion and motion and second to close the public portion. Any questions, concerns? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> All those opposed. The eyes have it. >> Motion to adopt ordinance 2117 tax 2025. >> Second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. Are there any questions, concerns? >> Hearing none. Rita, could we do a roll call vote, please? >> Mr. Chief, >> yes. >> Dr. Nelson, >> yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon? >> Yes. Yes. Mayor Shanker. >> Yes. >> All yes. And adopted. >> C. Ordinance 2118-2025, an ordinance authorizing the sale of lots 36 through 37 in block 318 uh 51 acres on Trenton and Market as shown on the tax map of the Township of Hamilton and granting to the owners or owners of said real property contiguous to the same right to prior refusal to purchase such land in the Township of Hamilton, County of Atlantic, State of New person. This is a public hearing. Is there anybody in the public like to speak? >> Motion to close public. >> Second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. Any questions, concerns? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. >> All those opposed. The eyes have it. >> Motion to adopt ordinance 2118 TAC 2025. >> Second. >> Thank you. We have a motion. We have a second. There are any questions, concerns? Hearing none. Rita, can we get a roll call vote, please? >> Mr. Chief, >> yes. >> Dr. Nelson, >> yes. >> Mr. Patali, >> yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon, >> yes. >> Mayor Shanker, >> yes. >> All yes and adopted. >> Thank you. Okay. So, we're going back to number five, which is introduction of ordinance. Public hearing will be held on November 10th, 2025. This is ordinance 2119-2025 uh which is has to do with the payto-run program we spoke of earlier. An ordinance of the township of Hamilton County of Atlantic and the state of New Jersey amending chapter 32 article one titled pay-per-un program of the code of the township of Hamilton. And basically like we said earlier it's just moving the dates of when payments go out so we can get it out before the end of the year. Motion to introduce ordinance 2119 TAC 2025. >> Second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. Or are any questions? >> I I have a question with filling out the year for pay as far as the December 31st year ending. You mentioned something. I didn't follow that. >> So the 2025 the way the ordinance reads now goes from January 1st to obviously December 31st. By sliding the scale back we slid it back to uh the end of September. So that leaves 2025 with a shortened nine-month period rather than the full year. Uh so we spoke with uh the CFO to make sure we accounted for that nine month shorten abated period. We put that in the uh ordinance. So that was addressed as well. So 2025 it won't be the full 12 month. >> It'll be the nine months from there on. It'll be >> from October until Sep moving forward. >> Any other questions? Rita, could we do a roll call vote, please? >> Mr. Yes. >> Dr. Nelson. >> Yes. >> Mr. Patali. >> Yes. >> Dr. Witherspan. >> Yes. >> Mayor Shanker. >> Yes. >> Oh, yes. And introduced. >> Thank you. Uh let's move on to 6A resolution authorizing to ex the accept acceptance of proposal from Remington and Verning for SL survey services to create and update GIS asbuilt storm water system mapping of the remaining stormwater assets for the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection MS4 compliance amount not to exceed $50,000. So move. >> Second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. Are there any questions, >> comments? >> Hearing none. Rita, roll call vote, please. >> Mr. Chief, >> yes. >> Dr. Nelson, >> yes. >> Mr. Dr. Withers, yes. Mayor Shanker, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Uh, consent agenda number seven. We have items A through G. >> Addition. >> Oh, I lied. 6B. >> Yeah, look at that. All right, let's start over again. Let's go back to six and we're going to go with 6B. Resolution to authorize extension of shared services agreement for solid waste collection services with Atlantic County Utilities Authority for the period of two months November 1st, 2025 through December 31st, 2025. >> So move. >> Second. >> A motion. We have a second. Any questions, comments? Read a roll call vote, please. >> Mr. Cheek, >> yes. >> Dr. Nelson, >> yes. >> Mr. Patali, yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon, yes. >> Mayor Shanker, >> yes. >> All yes and carried. >> 6 C is a resolution to authorize the extension of the interlocal services agreement for solid waste collection services with Hamilton Township Board of Education for the period of two months, November 1, 2025 through December 31st, 2025. >> So move Second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. Any questions? Any comments? Hearing none. Rita, could we do a roll call vote, please? >> Mr. Cheek, >> yes. >> Dr. Nelson, >> yes. >> Mr. Patali, >> yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon, yes. >> Mayor Shanker, >> yes. >> Oh, yes. And carries. >> 6D. Resolution authorizing execution of shared shared shared services agreement. Say that four times fast. between Township of Hamilton and Atlantic County for the use of three highway digital messaging boards and three speed feedback signs for the period of 1126 through the period of to 123130 and authorizing mayor to sign the same. So second a motion. We have a second. >> Questions or concerns. Hearing none. All u read. Let's do a roll call, please. >> Mr. Cheek. >> Yes. >> Dr. Nelson. >> Yes. >> Tally. >> Yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon? >> Yes. >> Mayor Shanker? >> Yes. >> All yes. And carried. >> Okay. So now we move back to seven in the highly anticipated consent agenda. Items A through G. So moved items A through G. >> Second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. Are there any questions, concerns? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> All those opposed. The eyes have it. We're going to move the number eight personnel resolutioning appointing acting lieutenant Christopher Rizzo as a Hamilton Township Municipal Alliance member for grant 2025 through 2026 effective 10 2025 to 6:30 2026. >> So move second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. Uh any questions, concerns? Read a roll call vote, please. Mr. Chef, >> yes. >> Dr. Nelson, >> abstain. >> Mr. Patali, >> yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon, >> yes. >> Mayor Shanker, >> yes. >> Four, yes. One abstension. Motion carries. >> Uh, we'll move to number nine for approvals. A is the minutes. Regular minute meeting minutes from October 6, 2025. >> So moved. >> Second. >> A motion. We have a second. Any questions, comments? >> Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. All those opposed. The eyes have it. B. Minutes for executive session meeting minutes of October 6, 2025. >> So moved. >> Second. We >> a motion. We have a second. Questions, concerns. >> Rita, can we have a roll call vote, please? >> Mr. Chef, >> yes. >> Dr. Nelson, >> yes. >> Mr. Patali, >> yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon, >> yes. >> Mayor Shanker, >> yes. >> Oh, yes. And carry. >> Thank you. C bills. Bill is total 5,382,68523. >> So moved. >> Second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. Any questions, concerns? >> Rita, please. >> Mr. Cheek. >> Yes. >> Dr. Nelson. >> Yes. >> Mr. Patali. Yes. >> Dr. Withersp. Mayor Shanker. >> Yes. >> All yes. >> Uh number 10. Let's go to reports. Mr. Administrator. >> So, uh, going back to 6A, we awarded a contract to Remington and Vernick for the stormwater mapping. This is something that had to be done through the D this year, our annual storm order report. Uh, should be noted that we have a $25,000 grant that we're using to offset the cost of this. It's only for 25. It is due by the end of the year. So, that's all I have. >> Very good. Thank you, Mr. Solicitor. >> Nothing to report at this time, Mayor. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Engineer. >> Nothing to add to my written report, mad. >> Thank you. Township committee members. Dr. Witherspoon. >> Yes. I would like to report that I attended the Atlantic County League of Municipalities meeting that was at uh Smithfield on Friday, uh the 17th, and Dr. Gunther was there and given all of the updates on ACIT and um where they were with it. It was really um really really good to see and um it was a very good report. They they will not be having any meetings in November due to the League of Municipalities Conference. Uh they won't meet again until January. That is my report. >> Okay. Thank you, >> Deputy Mayor. Um attended the uh we gave out some candy at the trunk or treat at the H school on Saturday. It was amazing how many kids showed up there. Um weather was great. I'm sure that helped it. So, uh, coming up, we got the, uh, Halloween parade on the 30th of the month. So, please plan ahead. There's going to be traffic issues. We know this year after a year, everybody. So, think ahead. Figure out how you're going to get through town. Um, and actually, don't even figure out how to get through town. Just come to the parade and have a good time. Hopefully, we have some good weather. And, uh, Halloween, of course, please be careful out there. kids walking around getting their candy and um that's really all I have. Mayor. >> Okay, >> Reagan, I'll see you soon. Maddie, I miss you and I love you and I hope to see you soon. >> Very good. Thank you. >> Manique, >> I echo Deputy Mayor Pat's remarks. Also, I've been out of town. I really don't have anything to add, but just everyone, please remember election day. We are Americans and we have the right to vote. So, please get out and vote. That's all I had. Good. >> Dr. Nelson. >> Thanks, Mayor. Um, went to the trunk or treat and we did pass out a lot of candy. I don't know what the count was, but there was lots of kids. Um, and, uh, continues to grow every single year. So, fire department was out there, EMS was out there, police department was out there, PAL was out there, MUA was out there. So, it was great, uh, turnout. We had a lot of trunks. And then also this Saturday is the fall fest and also the spook tech haunted hallways which is the first time we're putting it on. It's a program that um Dr. Dr. Zto brought down from his schools in Lacy or Burke up in Berkeley area. I think from Lacy, but it's a huge hit up there and we're looking to bring it down here and it um it's a good source of funds for the school to do things with grants that typically aren't um achievable through the normal um tax burden. And that's all I have. >> Very good. Thank you. Uh I also attended the trunk or treat. didn't attend. I was giving out candy, which is quite fun for little kids that just get the biggest kick out of it. My favorite part is the parents who have children who really can't make up their own minds yet. So, they help them get the pec bar they like. So, it's a lot of fun. Um, I got to be honest with you, probably more than we had last year and the year before. It seems to grow every year and it's good. It's a good way that kids can dress up, have a good time, and and be safe. I appreciate and want to thank all those who were involved um because it takes a lot of work to put these things on. Uh like it's been mentioned before, Fall Fest is Friday or excuse me, this Saturday and the Halloween parade is coming up and I got to tell you, I have people that I work with that are talking to me about our Halloween parade and they don't live here. So, it is the biggest event I think this town holds every year and I'm looking forward to it just like every year. and and um you know, like uh Committeeman Patali said, be come early because traffic's going to be crazy and it's going to be hard to get in and and um you know, everybody needs to do their part to stay safe and have a good time. So, um with that, I'll open it up to the public. If anybody in the public has something to say, come on up. Harry Rogers, 1069 Morningside Drive. Uh, two issues. Uh, on number 6A on the back, the change says not to exceed $50,000. >> You said $60,000. on the on the fir front of the page, it says 62, and I'm sure it's amended to 50, but what you said was 60. >> Rita, >> I don't remember what you said, but the resolution is for 50. >> It's for 50. I read it from this paper, so I'm pretty sure I read it 50, but >> Okay, good. I I hope you did. >> If it isn't, >> um, past couple meetings, you talked about hiring a new inspe building inspector. Um, is it my understanding that he knocks off at 2:00 in the afternoon? Is that true? No. What What are his hours? >> Yeah. >> 7 to three. >> I mean, Hamilton Township has a reputation going back a long way of being a tough place to get anything built. Is that really um conducive to people building and that we're looking to bring into the township to uh it's good because >> it's good because it helps with the it helps builders who start at seven. So um his earlier hours are he can meet contractors out on jobs on his way in. He stops him on his way in if he has to. He's he's in the office by 7. Does this individual also have a city truck? >> Yes. >> Had that been the practice in the past to give the building inspector a city vehicle? >> They're on call. So they they've been offered a city vehicle. >> Had it been the practice in the past to give to to give the uh building inspector a city vehicle or or did they just charge mileage? >> It's offered to it's offered to them. >> Did the previous building inspectors charge mileage? >> Um the previous building inspector lived around the corner. So Well, this vehicle is traveling back and forth, I believe, to Tom's River every day. >> Fork River. Okay. Sorry. Probably just as far. Um, nobody available around town to in the vicinity. I mean, see seemed a long way to go and have to provide the transportation to boot. That's that seemed that seemed a little extreme to me. So, I don't want to get into um the gentleman's personal life, but he is >> good to hear. Thank you. >> Anyone else in the public like to speak? >> Move to close public. >> Second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> All those opposed? Eyes have it. Uh we'll move to adjournment. So moved. >> Second. We >> have a motion. We have a second. Any questions? Any comments? Hearing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> All those opposed, eyes have it.