12-15-2025 - Township of Hamilton Committee Meeting
The committee recognized the William Davies Middle School ball hockey state champions, accepted a resignation and appointed Eric Aken to fill the township committee seat, and heard a county presentation on proposed countywide 911 dispatch, property tax assessment, and a time-sensitive regional jail decision. The meeting also adopted several land-sale and service ordinances, approved personnel hires, and addressed public concerns including ongoing neighborhood dog attacks and questions about Small Cities recapture payback rules.
Key points
Eric Aken was selected and sworn in to fill the township committee seat vacated by Art Shanker.6:12 ↗
County commissioner presented three major county proposals — countywide 911 dispatch, countywide tax assessment, and a regional jail — and said the jail decision is time-sensitive.11:11 ↗
Multiple ordinances were adopted relating to sale/acceptance of township land and a shared services agreement for solid waste/recycling with the Atlantic County Utilities Authority.30:57 ↗
A personnel appointment was approved: Dylan Horsey as a full‑time police officer with a starting salary of $55,867.38:33 ↗
A resident reported repeated, dangerous 100–150 lb dogs entering their property and expressed frustration with prosecutor/court handling and enforcement.53:50 ↗
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Topics with timestamps
Proclamation: school hockey champions
1:41committee presented a proclamation honoring the William Davies Middle School ball hockey team for completing an undefeated season and winning the NSBHL middle school tier 1 New Jersey state championship.
Committee vacancy and appointment
4:42Art Shanker resigned (moving to county commissioner) and the committee voted to appoint Eric Aken to fill the remainder of the term through December 31, 2026; Aken was sworn in and gave brief remarks.
County proposals: dispatch, assessments, regional jail
11:11Atlantic County presented proposals for a unified county 911 dispatch, countywide property tax assessment, and a regional jail; the presenter emphasized the jail decision is time-sensitive and urged municipal involvement.
Ordinances adopted (land transfers & shared services)
30:57committee adopted ordinances authorizing sale of township lots (with right of first refusal to contiguous owners), acceptance of a deed dedication from a development phase, and a shared services agreement with the Atlantic County Utilities Authority for solid waste/yard waste/recycling services.
Equipment purchase for fire tanker
37:01Approved purchase/installation of a 1,250 gpm pump for an FAS tanker (to meet minimum pump size for ISO rating) at an amount not to exceed $11,000, for the We (Way) Fire Department section.
Personnel actions
38:33Approved resignations and appointments including Dylan Horsey as full-time police officer and Adam Burke as an on-call public works responder.
Decisions / votes
- 6:12Appointed Eric Aken to the Township Committee to fill the vacancy left by Art Shanker (term through Dec 31, 2026) and administered oath of office.
- 30:57Adopted ordinance authorizing sale of Lot 3, Block 659 (9.62 acres, Youngstown Avenue) with prior refusal to contiguous owners.
- 30:57Adopted ordinance authorizing sale of Lot 28, Block 656 (4.81 acres, Youngstown Avenue) with prior refusal to contiguous owners.
- 32:29Adopted ordinance accepting a deed of dedication from Horizons at Woods Landing (phase five).
- 35:31Adopted ordinance approving a shared services agreement with the Atlantic County Utilities Authority for solid waste, yard waste, and recycling services.
- 37:01Authorized purchase and installation of a 1,250 gpm pump for an FAS 3000-gallon tanker from F1 Apparatus LLC, amount not to exceed $11,000.
- 38:33Accepted resignation of Linda Benner from the Historic Preservation Committee.
- 38:33Appointed Dylan Horsey as a full-time police officer (starting salary $55,867) and Adam Burke as an on-call public works responder ($2,100 annually).
Public comment
Resident requested permission/help to hang a championship sticker/banner for the Davies ball hockey team on the township recreation boards/boards used for courts.
Resident reported a multi-year problem with neighbors' 100–150 lb guard dogs repeatedly entering their property, attacking animals, and creating safety fears; expressed frustration with prosecutor/court outcomes and enforcement.
Resident asked for clarification about Small Cities recapture loan/grant payback rules — questioned why payback obligations can still exist decades later and requested the township check the applicant file for details.
Veteran reported delays and confusion obtaining a veteran vendor's license and credited township staff (Campbell and Guerilla) for resolving the issue after intervention; expressed concern about staff responsiveness.
Several residents voiced opposition or concern about county proposals to regionalize services, especially the potential impacts of a regional jail and countywide dispatch on local control and community impacts.
Transcript (11,973 words)
like to bring the Monday, December 15, 2025, Township of Hamilton Committee meeting to order. Please rise for the flag salute to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Adequate notice of this meeting has been provided pursuant to the New Jersey Open Public Meetings Law by posting a notice of this meeting on the Bolton board in the municipal building and by transmitting notice of this meeting to the press of Atlantic City, the Star Ledger and the Atlantic County Record on January the 8th, 2025. Mr. Cheek >> here, >> Miss Thompson >> here. >> Dr. Witherspoon >> here. >> Deputy Mayor Patali >> here. We have a moment of silence for private reflection, please. Thank you. Uh, starting off, we have a proclamation. William Davies Middle School NSBHL 2025 um championship team. Guys want to come on down and girls. All right, guys. Before we start, I just want you to do one thing. Thank your mother and fathers for getting you to where you are. All the practices [applause] >> I didn't hear. [laughter] >> I know. >> Yeah. >> How many quick dinners? >> Huh? [laughter] Whereas on November 16th, 2025, the William Davies Middle School ball hockey team completed their undefeated season as the NSBHL middle school tier 1 New Jersey state champions. Whereas [snorts] the season concluded with a shutout 4 to victory win in the championship game. And whereas all the players on the team are students at the William William Davies Middle School and excel not only in athletics but also in their academics. [snorts] And whereas the team spent many hours improving their street hockey skills while also ensuring they are great teammates, students, citizens as they represented their school and the township proudly. [snorts] Now therefore, we the township uh township committee of the township of Hamilton, county of Atlantic, state of New Jersey, on this day, December 15, 2025, do hereby recognize Whittle Middle Diam Davies Middle School NSBHL 2025 team in [snorts] honor of their remarkable accomplishments. The achievement is not only a credit to their hard work and dedication, but it is a credit to the support they have received from their families, coaches, teammates, and teachers. We congratulate the William Davies Middle School ball hockey team for their incredible success in 2025 and wish them the best of luck for many years to come. [applause] >> [applause] >> One thing I'd like to add is that their entire season, not one team scored one goal. Is that correct? >> I was told something wrong. >> Who's the goldie? >> Oh, okay. [laughter] All right. Forget that. Congratulations, guys. [applause] >> [applause] >> Good job. [applause] Very good. Congratulations. Um, I'm going to go ahead and skip over uh guest presentation because it kind of it'll work better that way. Okay. So, we'll move on to number one, the resignation of township committee member Art Shanker. Reed, is there anything we have to do about this? >> Not really. You can just recognize that he did resign. >> Uh, Art resigned [laughter] because he won an election and now he's a county he will be a county commissioner. So, congratulations to Art. Um so now we have selection of township committee member to take arts position. >> Do I have a motion? >> I motion for Eric Aken. >> Second. >> Rita, do we go to you for a vote? >> Yes. >> Mr. Cheek. >> Yes. >> Miss Thompson? >> Yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon? >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Patali? Yes. >> All yes and carried. >> Now we will move on to the oath of office. Administer to township committee member Eric Aken. Come on down. And county commissioner Andrew Parker will give the oath. Sure. >> Um, we just have to speak into make sure we kind of speak into that somewhat. >> Mr. Eric Aken There you go. >> Raise your right hand. >> Eric Aken, do solemnly swear. >> Won't you repeat after me, sir? I, Eric Aken, >> do solemnly swear >> that I will support the Constitution >> of the United States >> and the Constitution >> of the State of New Jersey >> and that I will bear true faith >> and allegiance >> to the same >> and to the governments >> established >> in the United States >> and in this state >> under the authority >> of the people . >> I do further >> solemnly >> swear >> that I will faithfully >> impartially >> and justly >> perform all >> the duties >> of the office >> of township committee >> Well, let me say that again. Township Committee Member >> Township Committee Member >> of the Township of Hamilton >> for the term >> For the term >> December 15th >> 2025 >> until December 31st >> 2026 >> according to the best of my ability. >> So help me God. >> Congratulations sir. [applause] >> [applause] >> Here we go. One second. [applause] Congratulations. >> Welcome aboard. >> I say a couple things. [clears throat] >> Absolutely. You could say something. Go ahead. [cough] >> I just want to say a couple things first. Uh um first thing I want to say is uh I want to thank the Lord above for giving me this opportunity. Um, I also want to say uh my dad and my grandfather are looking down on me right now with smiles on their faces. Uh, and they're very proud, I'm sure. Second, I want to thank uh I want to thank my wife and kids for their support on this endeavor. Um, my wife knew that something like this would come back around and it is. But thanks for giving me the thumbs up and I love you guys. Third, I wanted to thank the Republican committee for putting their trust and faith in me to fill some uh pretty big shoes left by art. So, I just wanted to say thank you to them. >> Very good. Welcome aboard. >> Thank you. [applause] >> Okay, moving on. Addition, deletion, late agenda items to be considered for action tonight. I have Yes. Presentation update of central dispatch and regional jail by Atlantic County and deletion of the proclamation uh for retirement of detective Leo Rudolph. >> So move. >> I have a motion. >> Second. >> I have a motion and a second. All those in favor? >> I against eyes have it. Okay. So, moving on, we will go to guest presentations and that would be Mr. Commissioner Andrew Parker. Give us a little update on county dispatch and situation with our county jail. Good evening again. >> I'll try to be brief. So, this time I'm learning not to go off my head to write some things down and it shortens the meeting a little bit. So, first on regional 911 dispatch, countywide assessment, and regional jail proposals. Good evening, and thank you all for the opportunity to be here as Atlantic County evaluates several major proposals, countywide 911 dispatch, countywide tax assessment, and the regional jail concept. My responsibility is to examine each issue with transparency, balance, and a focus on what best serves our residents today and in the years ahead. First, a countywide 911 dispatch. Atlantic County is taking a major step forward. A unified county operated dispatch system strengthens emergency communication, improves response coordination, and positions us to implement next generation technology that will benefit every municipality. This for me is a clear investment in public safety. Second, a countywide property tax assessment system can bring fairness, consistency, and fewer appeals, but it must be implemented with care. Seniors, fixed income homeowners, and communities experiencing shifts deserve protection and transparency. My support depends depends on strong safeguards to maintain stability for every municipality. Third, the regional jail discussion remains complex and deserving of careful community centered evaluation for Hamilton Township residents. Especially, the future of the regional the future of the facility directly impacts daily life, land use, and economic considerations. While exploring a regional model may provide fiscal relief from major capital investments, we must fully understand the implications for transportation, legal access, governance, and the long-term safety of our communities. I remain neutral at this stage, focused on gathering complete information. After reviewing the facts and hearing from the public, I will take the lead and represent the voice of the Atlantic County stakeholders, particularly Hamilton Township residents who are most closely impacted by the decision. Taken together, these proposals represent major structural decisions for Atlantic County. Some enhance our operational capacity. Others transition us away from direct service delivery in areas where modernization and sustainability demand new models. My commitment remains the same. We will modernize where modernization improves public safety and fiscal responsibility. and we will implement transitions with care, transparency, and strong protections for the most affected people. I will continue to work closely with municipal leaders, residents, families, and staff to ensure that Atlantic counties values fairness, safety, and responsibility, and responsible governance guide every step of the process. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. >> Have a question. Are there any >> Yeah. >> questions? [laughter] >> Yes. A couple questions. Um, a few years ago, the county tried to have a central dispatch and there was some opposition from all, not all, but from some of the municipalities. Has everyone bought into this? >> No, >> it's the same as it was back then. >> I wouldn't say the same. So, here's what we had a meeting at the English Creek. uh fire station a few weeks ago. There was over a hundred people that attended uh county residents that attended this meeting and so we gave an information or there was a presentation presentation that was given. Now I'll just tell you what I've gathered from the folks that have spoken to me um from that meeting. Our men and women and our fire companies, they're asking for it. They're more in favor. This is something that they want. They think it needs to happen. uh for the most part they're on their own on board where there's some push back is from our uh law enforcement officers. So our police departments there is some push back saying you know they're unsure about it. Some folks some of the folks in Egg Harbor Township that I talked to uh made some statements um saying listen we're already kind of regionalized. If you know Egg Harbor Township, Egg Garber Township's dispatch is already pretty much a regional u operation as it is. So my conversation with Egar Township, the police department was just that. Well, you're not against regionalization because we're already there. We're already regionalized in terms of what we're doing. So there has to be something more that we don't think is going to be a positive. So that conversation still is ongoing. There is some push back. There are some people that don't think it's going to be a major thing. And there are some people that are, you know, listen, let's let's just call things what they are. Home rule is important, right? And so we know that a lot of municipalities don't want to give up that home rule. A lot of counties don't like to give up home rule. But as we move forward and we look at what's coming down the pipeline in terms of our taxes, in terms of our in terms of our budget, we have to do things differently. And if you look at what the other counties and municipalities are moving to all across the state of New Jersey, everything's moving to a more regional system. So if we can provide a better service by regionalizing, you know, as opposed to having each individual municipality or a patchwork of municipalities that are paying for upgrades to the system, which is going to have to happen when we go to 911, the nextG, everyone's going to have to improve the system that they have because what we're using now won't it's it's not going to make it. It's not going to be able to uh be used with the next system. So there's major updates that are going to be coming down the pipeline. It's going to cost the municipalities a lot more to do individually than it would cost if we went into a regional system. That's the positive. Now, there are all kind of positives. There's pros and cons, and I have a sheet of them that I won't bore everybody with tonight, but I've drafted a bunch of pros and cons that I will share with you guys. I'll send an email over and you can look over to help guide your decision as you're making your decisions of each of these uh regionalized uh programs that are proposals that have been put out. >> Many been some municipalities I know that we um do dispatch with at Carpa City and so a lot of municipalities are already doing this. >> That's right. And then some of them are very small like we have a very small it's not like EHT or Hamilton Township. So I'm not going to get into all of that tonight but I do know because I had done a complete study on this when this happened a while ago uh about the different people with the um dispatch. Secondly, now tax did you say something about tax assessor? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Because that was not on our list. So, you inserted that? >> You said I inserted it. >> Yeah, but we was only going to talk about Central Dispatch and the jail. >> Well, I'm not sure who made the list, but >> I didn't make the list. >> Neither here nor there. These are the these are the three things that I'm reporting from the county. >> I understand >> that Hamilton Township needs to be aware of because whatever decision the county makes, we we won't make it without Hamilton Township's input. So what I'm coming here today is not to uh cheerlead any of these programs. I'm coming to inform that these are the major decisions that have to be made and not only to be made by you guys and by us, but to be made by the people that are sitting out here in the audience because they're the ones that are going to make the ultimate decision. So I'm going to be very clear in terms of the jail. Um, I've talked to Hamilton Township residents, Hamilton Township, um, elected officials and, you know, it seemed to be some folks say that they're for it, some folks say they're for it moving. Uh, some are saying they're not for it. What I'm here to say is make sure that you get in touch with us at the county so that we can give you all the information that we have so that you can make an informed decision. All right? And because we do have that, if you go to our website right now, if anyone wants to go to the county website, on our website, we actually have all the information that you need for the 911 dispatch. So everything that we have, you guys have at your disposal. You can look at the you can look at the information, look at the data, say whether you're for it, against it, why you're for it, why you're against it, you know, go line by line. And I'm and and so I'm just what I'm here to do is to engage everybody into that conversation because this isn't a conversation. This isn't a decision that the commissioners or the executive needs to make in silos on our own. This is something that's going to impact everybody. It's going to impact every municipality. It's going to impact every one of the taxpayers in here. So, everyone needs to be involved in this conversation. >> I get it. And I'm I I appreciate you coming and bringing this information to Hamilton Township, but we would have to do a further study and then find out what our police department >> wants to do and how they want to, you know, move forward with this because we can't do this. We want to make sure that if you have a county dispatch, right? And they don't know every street in Hamilton Township, you know? So, we had to call 911. I'll venture to say that Hamilton Township dispatch doesn't know every street in Hamilton Township. >> Don't don't don't disrespect our town. >> No, no, no disrespect. Egg Harbor Township. >> I got you talk about township. >> Doesn't know every street in [laughter] township. There's a lot of streets out here. Every street's a lot. >> Right. But I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm not trying to be adversarial. Commission. [laughter] >> I don't know. >> Okay. Well, I'm not being adversarial. I'm just bringing up it. It was a little humanist, but I'm just saying. No, I >> uh you we want to make sure you know if we go to a county dispatch, >> people that you hire, what's going to happen to our dispatchers? >> What's going to happen? Are they going to have to drop in salary? Are the people that you hire, are they going to know if they call 911? How long is it going to take, >> you know, for them to get to Hamilton Township? We are very, very efficient here in Hamilton Township. So, I know it's something that we need to look at, but you know, uh, you said that you have a whole list. It would have been nice that we would have been able to see that prior to the meeting, and I have to give it back over to the deputy mayor because I know he wants to move forward, but I just had to for the record, you know, bring my comments to um on this issue. So, I do appreciate you, Commissioner, for coming and making us aware of it. Mhm. >> And I do know because we did have a a a short conversation >> that there's a regional jail. There's a jail being done up in Gloucester or Ham Camden County. >> It's going to be in Camden County. So for for folks that don't that aren't already aware of what's happening. The jail is there's going to be a regional jail that's going to be built in Winslow Township. It's going to be five at the at the Anora U location. that's going to happen whether Atlantic County says yes or Atlantic County says no. >> We can't stop that from happening. They don't need our consent. It's not in our county, right? >> That's going to happen. So the only question that we're being asked and you know we had the commissioner chair for Camden County came to our last meeting I believe it was or the meeting our last meeting >> administrator >> the administrator from the >> administrator from Camden came to our last meeting and gave a presentation um on the jail and made it very clear the state of New Jersey made it very clear they do not need our permission they do not need our consent and if Atlantic County says no we're out we we're going to keep our jail right where it's at they're still going to build that jail in Winslow. So the question is, are we in or are we out? And if we're in, what are the terms of us being in? You know, and so those are conversations, again, not something that I'm advocating for. I want to be very clear. I'm not advocating for any of these things to take place. I'm bringing information because we need to engage in conversation about the facts. And so the county right now what we have is we have um I guess if you're looking for facts the best place to find them is to come to the county to come to us. Call our executive call our call our well the ones on the website. Call our executive's office call our administrators. Call the county. >> We'll share any information that we have as we're looking into this as well because we're doing the same thing that you guys are doing. We're sitting back receiving the information and saying, "Well, what about this? Well, what about that? Well, what's going to happen with the people? What's going to happen with pensions? What's going to happen with travel time?" So, we're asking all these questions. We're kicking in the process of kicking the tires for for lack of a better word as we speak. But, this doesn't need to be something that Atlantic County commissioners are only kicking the tires with. This is something that you guys need to be kicking the tires with and every other municipality needs to kick the tires with us so that we can make a decision collectively on what we're going to be in and what we're going to be out of. So, so it's not just this, like I said, we don't want it to be a decision that the county commissioners make and then you guys find out about it. >> You understand what I mean? We want you guys to be a part of the conversation in each of these municipalities. And I'm going to make sure, as I as I told you when I talked to you, I'm going to make sure that Hamilton Township's voice is heard. One, the jail is here. That's a big one. So, we're talking about the jail, the jail is here. So, whether it stays or goes, you guys have to be one of the leading voices at that table in making that decision. And so, whatever Hamilton Township decides, I'll take that decision to the commissioner board and I will champion that decision, whatever that is, regardless to whatever I may believe or think is in the best interest. That's not what's important. I'm one person. I'm one vote. I'm here to represent the rest of the the the rest of Hamilton Township. Sorry about the the rest of Hamilton Township. So, here's where I'm being told with the jail. The reason I'm coming is because and please, we'll talk more offline. I don't want to prolong your meeting. We'll talk more tomorrow, but please get in touch with us as soon as possible because what I'm being told is that we don't have a lot of time to make the decision. That's the other part of it. you know, they didn't leave us a whole lot of leadway in terms of time to to choose. >> So, we have to make a decision. We have to make that one pretty quickly. The other two decisions are not as pressing, but the jail decision is. It's time sensitive and we have to decide what we're going to do. >> How much time do we have? >> I don't know. I don't have that. I don't have that answer to be completely honest with you, but from the conversation that I had when Camden administrator left was not much. I said, "Well, how much is not much?" And he said, "Not much. They're they're looking to move pretty quickly." And and you know, I'm not exactly a fan of how this came to the Atlantic County Commissioners Board. I'll say that. But it's before us, right? So, I'm not going to complain about how it got there. Now, I'm just going to focus on what decision are we going to make, right? I wish we had more time. I wish they came to us earlier. I wish they engaged us in the process earlier. I wish things had gone differently with the state of New Jersey. There's a whole lot of things that I wish on my wish list for for the holidays that did not happen. But it didn't happen that way. It happened to as um just was told um you have our solicitor sitting right here who was in the meeting. You know, our last meeting is when they came to us and told us that this was the deal and what we're going to do. We just recently had these meetings. Now, we had heard things that were coming down the pipeline, but nothing officially done, right? Nothing officially stated. >> [laughter] >> So, we know now this is what they're doing. We don't exactly know that timeline. I'll, you know, work with the administrator tomorrow. I'll call the executive tomorrow and see if he can, you know, get closer to what that timeline is that we have to make this decision. But I do know and what I can tell you is the jail will be built even if we say no. So the question is, are we are we going to go in and then do and and and and come out of the jail business or are we going to run our jail locally here anyway while they're running their jail that I think it's Cumberland County, if I'm not Miss Cumberland County and Camden County are already in. >> Thank you. >> So the other the other ones are not uh emergency decisions that have to be made. You guys have some time to kind of look over, look at it and see what you think and get to the county commissioners, get to your elected officials here so they can you they can let us know and we can let the executives know and we can have that conversation amongst the county and decide what we're going to do as a county. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Early public comment on agenda items excluding items listed for public hearings. Do we have anybody signed up? >> No one signed up. >> Thank you, sir. >> Moving on, we have uh no discussions. Public hearing adoption of ordinances ordin ordinance 21-22-2025 an ordinance authorizing the sale of lot 3 block 659 as shown on the tax map of the township of Hamilton granting to the owners of contiguous property the right to prior refus refusal to purchase such land 9.62 62 Acres Youngstown Avenue. >> Make that motion. >> I have a motion. >> Second. >> Have a second. This is >> public hearing. >> Anybody from the public wish to speak? Motion to close. >> Second. >> Have a motion, a second to close. All those in favor? I I Any discussion? No. >> Rita, can we have roll call? >> I have a motion. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Motion to adopt. I'm sorry. >> So move. >> Second. >> We have a motion to second. >> Roll co vote, please. >> Mr. Aken, >> yes. >> Mr. Chief, >> yes. >> Miss Thompson. >> Yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon. >> Yes. Deputy Mayor Patali. >> Yes. And adopted. >> Ordinance 2123-2025, an ordinance authorizing the sale of lot 28 and block 656 as shown on the tax map of the township of Hamilton, granting to the owners of contiguous property the right to prior refusal to purchase such land. 4.81 acres Youngstown Avenue. This is a public hearing. Anybody from the public wish to speak? >> A motion to close public. >> So move. >> Second. >> Motion a second. All those in favor? >> I have a motion to move. >> So move. Second. >> Have a motion and a second. >> Any questions? Roll call vote, please. >> Mr. Aken. Yes, Mr. >> Yes, >> Miss Thompson. >> Yes, >> Dr. Witherspoon. >> Yes, >> Mayor Patel. >> Yes. >> Ordinance 2124-2025, an ordinance of the township of Hamilton County of Atlantic in the state of New Jersey authorizing the acceptance of a deed of dedication from Horizons at Woods Landing Motors Association Incorporated phase five. Anybody from the public wish to speak? Good evening. Uh, if I could digress for a moment, I'd like to congratulate Committeeman Aken and the entire committee in this in the selection of Committeeman Akin. He's a thoughtful, intelligent, and considerate gentleman and will be an asset to the township. Um, Randolph Lafery 155 Lawful Court, Maze Landing, New Jersey. I've been a township resident for 25 years. I've lived in this community for almost 20 years in Woods Landing. [clears throat] Uh, and with me tonight is Joanne Falconee, who is president of our homeowners association. Um, the the only comment that I would make is that, [clears throat] excuse me, uh, this township has been exceptional in partnering with this community and getting this uh, getting this community done. Going back to the administration, I think of Mayor Gascal, uh we've had troubles in this community. We had zombie homes that were incomplete and and not completed. And without the commitment of the the the government in this township, uh we would not be where we are today. This is the last step in our completion. Uh you've accepted phases one through four. This is phase five. And I think the public needs to be aware that and I said this last time I was here and I'll say it again. Uh the the the cooperation of of the governing body and the administration in this town has been exceptional and is is a model to be followed in other municipalities in in a public private partnership to complete a community. And we appreciate your support. We appreciate the commitment of your professionals through the years and uh we're very thankful for your uh cooperation with us. Thank you. Thanks, Randy. Anybody else from the public? >> Motion to close. >> A motion to close. >> Second. >> Have a second. All those in favor? >> I um >> motion to move. >> I'll make a motion. Second. I >> have a motion and a second. >> Any questions, comments? Rita, we have a roll call vote, please. >> Mr. Aken, >> yes. >> Mr. Chief, >> yes. >> Miss Thompson, >> yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Patali, >> yes. >> Yes. And adopted. >> Ordinance 212. 2125-2025, an ordinance of the township of Hamilton County of Atlantic authorizing and approving a shared services agreement for certain solid waste, yard waste, and recycling services by and between the Atlantic County Utilities Authority and the Township of Hamilton. This is a public hearing. Anybody from the public wish to speak? A motion to close public Motion. >> I have a motion. >> Second. >> I have a second. All those in favor? >> I have a motion to move. >> So move. >> Second. >> I have a motion and a second. Any comments, questions? Roll call vote, please. >> Mr. Aken, >> yes. >> Mr. Chief, >> yes. >> Miss Thompson, >> yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Pat, >> yes. Ordin uh introduction of ordinances. We have none. Award of bids contract change orders resolution authorizing purchase and installation of a hail RSD 1250 gallon per minute pump for a FAS 3000gal tanker from F F1 Apparatus LLC. Amount not to exceed $11,000. >> So move second. >> I have a motion in a second. Any questions, comments? >> Question. >> Go ahead. >> Um, these this tanker, which fire department is this going to be with? >> This is for We Fire Department. >> We >> Yes. >> I didn't think we was a part of >> Yeah. So, last year we purchased a a tanker for their previous tanker went out of service. >> So, why are we purchasing one? pump is. So I was this was brought to my attention by the chief out John Carrian out there. Um the original pump was a thousand gallon. That's the uh pump that's spec with the truck to maintain our ISO rating for that area of the township. Uh the minimum required pump size is 1250. So we had to upgrade the pump. We had to add 250 gallons capacity pump is stay the same. >> I I understand. And it's not that I'm against way having a a tanker, you know, we got one. I me and committee woman um Thompson went to the fire company maze landing. There was a tanker there. They're supposed to go to MSPA, but I thought that way was not a part of Hamilton Township. >> Way section of the township. >> We a section of it. No, no, really. I mean I know the beginning because when you cross over right they have their own mayor they own everything you know so I just wanted to make sure >> with the township that's all >> thank you any other questions or comments I have a roll call vote please >> Mr. Aken >> yes >> Mr. Yes. >> Wisconsin. >> Yes. >> Dr. Withersp. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Patel. >> Yes. >> Move on to the consent agenda. >> A motion A through H. >> Second. Have a motion A through H. We have a second. Any questions or comments? >> All those in favor? >> I I have it. >> Moving on to personnel. accept resignation of Linda Benner as a class C member of Hamilton Township Historic Preservation Committee 4-year term expiring 123126. >> So move second. >> I have a motion and a second. All those in favor? >> I have it. B. Resolution appointing Dylan Horsey as a full-time police officer for the Hamilton Township Police Department at the academy step of the CBA with a salary of $55,867 start date to be determined. >> So move second. >> I have a motion in a second. >> We have a roll call vote for that, please. >> Mr. Aken, >> yes. >> Mr. Chief, >> yes. >> Miss Thompson. >> Yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Patel. >> Yes. And carry >> resolution appointing Adam Burke as a on call responder in the public works department at $2,100 annually effective 1 2026. >> So move. >> Second. >> I have a motion in a second. >> Um Rita, we have a roll call vote, please. >> Mr. Aken? >> Yes. >> Mr. Chief, >> yes. >> Miss Thompson. >> Yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Patali. >> Yes. >> Carry. >> Approvals. Minutes. Regular meeting minutes. December 1st, 2025. >> So move. >> Second. I have a motion to second. All those in favor? >> I >> abstain. Four. Yes. One extension. >> Thank you. Bills. Bill is total $2,922,83.73. >> So move. >> Second. >> I have a motion in a second. Roll call vote, please. >> Mr. Aken, >> yes. >> Mr. Chief, >> yes. >> Miss Thompson, >> yes. >> Dr. Witherspoon. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Patel. >> Yes. >> Yes, we can. >> Reports. Mr. Administrator, >> we had our first snowstorm of the year last night, yesterday. Hopefully the last snowstorm of the year. >> [laughter] >> did a good job. Um, didn't get any comp I didn't get any complaints. I don't >> listen, the year ends in two weeks. >> Yeah. Well, good point. >> First snowstorm of the season. Um, good job by public works. That's all I have, >> Mr. Solicitor. >> Nothing to put this on, Deputy Mayor. Thank you, >> Mr. Engineer. >> Just like to welcome Mr. A board, but I have nothing to add. >> All right. Township committee members, Dr. Witherspoon. >> Yes. I would like to um welcome um Mr. Eric Aikens, part of our township. Um I attended the Dickens craft which was very nice. It was [clears throat] very nice over in the library and um they had it at various stations. It was a nice um presentation and I really liked it. It was my first time attending that. It was my first time attending that. I didn't get to attend all of the sites, but I did attend the one in the library and thought it was very nice. And I went to Reese across America. That was well done. Uh special shout out to Peter Espot who done and worked tirelessly uh to make sure that this was done and they collected over 2500 wreaths. And this year, um, the Reese went to Holy Cross, Lincoln, and Union Cemetery, and it was just well done. Um, I was glad to be there, and God smiled on us because it wasn't raining. It was a little cold, but it wasn't raining. And I also want to give a shout out to um, St. Vincent D, um, D. Paul Church. Uh they had a nice reception uh when it was over with and I did attend the reception um with the bishop and pastor March and they done an excellent job over there. The food was delicious, hospitality was wonderful and um I just wanted to say something about that. Thank you. That's my report. >> Thank you. Committeewoman Thompson. >> Yes. So there was a lot of uh holiday spirit going on all around Hamilton Township. We um I went to shop with a cop and for the first time at local Walmart and I was very excited and I um met up with a co a couple of our local um Hamilton Township U police officers who were doing a good job with the children and um the two that I did get to speak with. We took pictures and stuff um with the children and um talked to Santa Claus. I also went to Dick uh the Dickens of a holiday fair, a craft fair and um spent a lot of money because there was so many crafts there that I was so excited about for Christmas shopping. That was uh very nice. Um also Dr. uh committee woman Dr. Thma Witherspoon and I supported Hamilton Cares. Um we um donated toys for the children. I I also participated in the Reef Across America which was very near and dear to my heart. Um that was uh when we went out there to put the reefs on their veterans graves um the bishop um had told us to say their name out loud and that was very meaningful um to to acknowledge them and to uh say a prayer. I brought my niece with me and we were doing it together and that was very moving and touching, but I felt so good about putting the greaves on a um veterans um gravestones right there in the cemetery. Also, um I visited um the Miseland Fire Department where they said they had the real Santa there. [laughter] Um, and I just want to do a shout out that they're also having another um, cookies and hot chocolate with Santa on um, December the 20th from noon to 3:00. And I also want to welcome committee man Eric Aens. Did I say it right? >> Akens. Yes, thank you. >> And that's it. Thank you. >> Thank you very much, Committeeman Chief. I'd like to welcome Eric as well. And I was at the Reef Across America myself and it was very proud to put the reef on my father's gravestone. That meant a lot to me. During the last two weeks, I did a site visit at the dump and they have a office trailer and they're progressing along very nicely. I thank public works. I myself didn't get any calls either, so thank you very much. And the last thing I have is the two days ago, Atlantic County Special Services had their Christmas concert. And to see those kids, Thelma went, you went as well. I went to the younger ones. And to see all those kids with nothing but smiles and having fun on their face was very rewarding for me and my wife. So that's all I have. >> Very good. Very good. >> Speak again. >> All you buddy. So, I just feel like I just want to say I feel it's an honor to, you know, sit up here and serve the community that I grew up in. Um, it just feels it feels real good. And, you know, I just wanted to say it doesn't matter, you know, your political affiliation, DR I, you know, when you're up here, you're serving your community. It's all about making your community the best community. And I hope we all can work together to, you know, accomplish that, you know, to have a better place to live, play, and work, you know, in Hamilton Township. I said, so I feel it's it's an honor for me to sit up here, you know, growing up in this town. So, thank you. >> Glad to have you. >> Thank you. Thank you. Um, I'll jump in and congratulate Eric. Um he's been sitting on the sidelines for a long time and it's uh I'm really happy to see him jump in and I'm sure he's going to do a really good job. Um I attended a zoning board meeting last week and it was very crowded. Um I'm not going to mention what was going on, why everybody was there, but I saw something. Um, about I'd say 45 minutes into the meeting, I watched somebody get up and she looked very upset and I watched her and I didn't know what she was doing. She was in scrubs, so I knew she was nurse, dental hygienist, I don't know what she was, but she ran over to the back and there was a gentleman in the back that was in a wheelchair. He was passed out. Um, I jumped up. Brett was there. He got up. other people got up and she was asking where's the AED. Um she was also asking please somebody call 911 while she started trying to help the man. Um I ran out and called dispatch. When I called dispatch I could hear in the background they were already talking to somebody who was on 911 with them. They called 911. By the time I came back through those doors, there were three or four police officers already in this room working on this man, this gentleman. They had him on the floor. They had the AED already hooked up to him. Um maybe five minutes later, rescue squad was here already. Um everybody filed out, got out of the way, but it was just um sadly the man passed away. Sadly. Um but it was just seeing people that were concerned and um and how quickly our police officers responded, how everybody everybody did what they had to do, and it was really a good thing to see. I mean, people ran out, like I said, needed the AED and it's out in the hallway. Um, it's just it was unfortunately things didn't go the way we all wished it would have, but knowing that there's people that care, that somebody that saw something was going on, it was uh it was it was kind of nice to see. It was heartwarming and then kind of broken heart at the same time. So, I just wanted to say that. Um, Christmas is coming. So, like I say every year, get out, support our local businesses. Um, without our local businesses, our taxes are going to go through the roof. We got to keep them alive. We got to keep them open. Um, shop small on Main Street, shop large at Walmart. Um, they all pay taxes. Um, they all employ people in our community. So, please um if you're going to go out and do some Christmas shopping, please do it locally. We really appreciate it. And of course, public works, you guys did a great job Sunday yesterday. I got no complaints. I think the only complaint I made was I texted Brett and said, "My road wasn't plowed yet." And he said, "Yeah, well, neither was mine." And before uh about two minutes later, I said I texted him back. I said, "Haha, plow just went by." [laughter] So, and that was that was uh that was later Sunday afternoon. So, no complaints for me at all. Um, hey, Woods Landing, first time having public works do your roads. How'd they do? >> Great job. >> There you go. Good job. Thank you. Um, and that's uh that's all I have. >> What's that? I don't want to I'm not saying anything. Um, so Reagan, I'll see you later. Maddie, I miss you and I love you and I hope to see you soon. So, we will go ahead and open up to public comment. >> Hi everybody. Jennifer La Hawk, uh, 5849 Cedar Street. Um, so I just want to start and say that I came here tonight for the Davies ball hockey team, but it was an added bonus being able to see Mr. Akens sworn in tonight. So, congratulations and can't wait. Thank you. Um, so I just wanted to thank the township for um the recognition of the Davies ball hockey team. The fact that these kids were able to win a state championship is a huge accomplish for both the players and the community. Um, the team has chipped in to um to have championship banners printed. The u we um yeah, sorry, we wish they were ready so that we could have could have brought them here tonight. Um, one of the banners is for the Davies gym and the school is ready and willing to hang it up with pride. Um, the other is a sticker banner um for the courts and leapsing and we were hoping that the township would allow us to hang up the sticker alongside other championship sticker banners um on the boards themselves. So, we were wondering if there was anyone um on public works that we could work with to have those bangers hung up. >> Right. Yeah, we could we could work with you on that. >> Okay. Should I just reach out to you? >> Yeah. You have my >> Yes. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I'm gonna go behind you. So that's why I >> Okay, >> there's a lady coming now. >> I'm not calling the shots. I knew what I knew what your issue is. >> Oh, yeah. >> I'm sorry. >> No, I have a false shot. >> Not jealous. >> How do we lower this? >> Is that good? >> That's fine. >> Good. >> Hi, my name is Daniel French and I live at 6815 Harding Highway. I know Mr. Patel probably knows what I'm going to talk about. Uh, maybe one other person might know. I've had a three-year nightmare with a property, three properties away from me with their 100 to 150 pound guard dogs constantly coming over to my property. I they terrorizing my horses, attacking my cat, charging my husband, growling at me. Uh I came, this is I think my fifth time here. The last time I was here, I told you that when I went to court, how the judge allowed hearsay evidence from the person with the dog, which wasn't even accurate hearsay. Uh, he also ruled I'm no longer allowed to fire shots into the ground to scare the dogs away. Uh, I have to wait till I'm attacked. I'm not even 100 pounds myself. These are 100 to 150 pound guard dogs, not hurting dogs. So, I was told by the committee here that it's all new people because the person owns the dogs is personal friends with one of the prosecutors. I found that out the hard way. This is not me guessing. This came out in open court. I was told by the committee either you said it was new judges or all new people. Well, I filed another complaint and I was in the courthouse just like days ago to tell them I need to appear live, not virtual. And I realized it's right away I saw the same prosecutor and another person who was a prosecutor there and the same judge. So, what's going on? It's not all new people. I mean, I don't I don't get a fair shake no matter what I do. >> I >> Mr. Solicitor, do you have anything? I don't >> I don't have any details on unfortunately that's not your oversight. We discussed this before it goes to the administrative office. So, that would be the county or the state court system who you would direct your your complaints and concerns to um and they would be the one to follow that. But it it was this committee who specifically said it's it's like all new people. It's not at least not as of the other day. What am I supposed to do when these dogs come at me growling? I'm not allowed to even shoot one till it attacks me. Attacks me. I don't even think that's legal in the state of New Jersey. I have to wait till I'm I have no shot. Not with a 100 150 a dog that's bigger than me. >> It won't leave. It will not leave my property. Then we found out after the last time, I didn't know this when I met with this committee last time, but the neighbors who have the dogs and the neighbor they sold the house to right next to them. One or but one for sure, maybe both men lied to the police. And I understand charges were being filed and said that we shot at their house. No such thing happened. Thank God we had a video of it. Thank God. I mean, I'm up against it. I'm getting no help from the committee and I feel these people with the dog's friendship with a prosecutor is working against me. >> Correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. uh solicitor. I don't think there's anything we can do about the judge and what judge you're you're you are in front of. I don't think we have any we we there's nothing we can do about that. >> Well, why was I told it was all new people? >> I I don't remember exactly what was said. I would have to go back and check. >> That's correct. You don't have the recite that would go to the court system directly. And all all I'm hoping that every time you have a problem with these dogs, what I tell everybody, I have a problem with some dogs in my neighborhood. You have to you have to call the police every time. >> Well, the police have been pretty helpful, don't get me wrong, but the time before I was here when um the police came actually quite a few. They're it's a waste of police resources at this point because I I can't even fire I used to just fire a warning shot in the ground, the dogs would take off. I can't do that now. So last time it it took like an hour and a half of the police's time between my house and the neighbor's house and then I found out that they one of them lied. I actually think both of the neighbors lied but for sure in the police report one of them lied. Uh it uh it it just doesn't end. And uh I found out later that the people with the dogs was had a fine in the past. The prosecutor in the beginning of all this re when they found out how many times this has happened and that they attacked the cat went after my husband. The prosecutor who didn't wasn't friends with these people recommended $1,000 fine. Now the people when the police charged them got a $25 fine. $25. These dogs now I believe have been at my property 16 times. I have to be on guard every day. I have to have a gun somewhere handy just in case. Just I have to know I have a gun somewhere where I can get too quick. I I'm not a gun person. I don't want to have to carry a damn gun. I shouldn't have to. But this is how my life is with this. >> But I was Mr. Solicitor. >> I was told the last time it was all new people and that's why I went ahead and filed. And >> right, you have you have all of her information, correct? We have all of her information. All right. >> I can give it to him again. >> The solicitor and I will reach out to the prosecutor's office and inquire and we will get back to you. I mean, that's that's the best I can say. That's I I don't know what like I said. >> Well, who do I give my information to? >> Brett says he has it, but you can give it to him again if you if that makes you feel comfortable. But I know that we've been, you know, Brett's been in contact with you. I'm sure he has your information. I said this once before and I'll say it again. If I get hurt because of these dogs, it won't just be the dog owner sued. It's going to be the township as well because that judge ruled I can't do anything till I'm actually attacked. That's not even legal. >> Okay. Anybody else? >> Good evening. Good evening. >> Yes, Mr. Eric, I like your opening your statement that you made about unity and working together. Appreciate it so much. Congratulations. Um Ethel um Braxton from the Metropolis of Mispa and uh I know y'all laugh, but from Mispa. Um >> yes, it's a metropolis. >> Yes, the Metropolis of Mispa. Yes. [laughter] Um I somewhat have a question and this is under the Small Cities Recapture Fund. And I'm not really clear on it of when these [clears throat] when this um funds these funds were available. I know in in the MISPA area they were called they called them grants and people were all excited about them because they were told that you didn't have to pay anything back long as you stayed into the property a number of years. and um an incident came up and I don't know like I said I don't have all the information or clarity on it maybe you can help me but I didn't know that even after 30 years that you have received this these funds or these grants you still have to pay back um uh upwards of 50% or 100% back to the township and I'm not clear on under this where is their cut off because um this partic in this particular incident it's been 30 years. Okay. Now some uh was forgiven it says uh after six years a 50% forgiveness. Another after six years a zero forgiveness. Then another one is after six years um of 50% and another one 50%. So, you know, I'm I'm not clear on like understanding and I don't think many people understand what is it. So, now it's 30 years later, you go to you have leans on the house after 30 years later um from the township that you have to pay back. And then they're not like descriptive of what specifically they did do um like was it the roof? Was it the septic? So you don't have any information of what was really done but I'm just asking even after 30 years you still have to pay back a 50%. What is the criteria when you and when there's some you have a 100% forgiveness. Um, so people, um, you know, a lot of the people that I know of, I shouldn't say a lot, but people that I know of, they were seniors. Um, and you don't read all of the fine print that's there. All they were hearing is, and I don't have to pay it back, but I don't think that people know even after 30 years, you still have to pay something back. But then in some incidents, you don't have to pay any back. So what is, you know, some clarification on this? Can you go ahead? >> We're gonna have to look at the specific program that you're enrolled in and then get back to you on details. >> But do does the township still are we still involved with the small cities recapture? >> We are we are still involved with it. I just have to see specifically what you know what program you're speaking of. I don't have >> Okay. When you asked what program, what do you There's different programs under that fund. >> Yes. Yeah. Specific. >> I don't have >> You had mentioned that you weren't sure if you had your roof replaced or some some other repair on your home. >> So, yes, but some of them it doesn't say what was replaced. It doesn't say. So we what I'm saying is we may have a file on your specific your your specific application that we could look back and see the re the payback and all those different details. I don't have them right. >> Right. Okay. But there is a criteria that is specifically written for everyone of how you pay this back. If it's 50% or 100% on any of them. >> Yes. So the program I again if it was 30 years ago we'd have to go back and see exactly you know what kind of get back to >> okay >> so give give our administrator your your contact information yourself your phone number or email however you want to contact give him whatever information he needs to track it down and and he will get back to you >> okay all right I appreciate it and I just wanted to say I was at Reese across America And it was a a excellent turnout and I think it was a question asked on um Dr. Witherspoon's um Facebook. How can we top this? So I'm hoping we can top it next year. Um we ran out of reefs over at the Lincoln Memorial um Veteran Cemetery. We ran out for it was a uh I know I counted at least 10 or 12 maybe even more that did not receive reefs at that time. But I thank um Dr. Witherspoons for making that effort over her radio station and doing that and bringing that forth and everyone that was involved in doing that. It was a really a touching um experience and I hope that we do top it so we'll double the number next year. >> Yeah. Every year we do more. >> Yes. I I know that. So, I'm sure we'll top it next year. >> Okay. Double. >> At least we'll try. >> All right. >> That's going to be the plan. Thank you. >> Bitten by the county again. Huh? I'm going to lean, you know, my back. Let's talk about the jail. And I got I got my little classmate friend here who also walked the streets of Maze Landing in the area of the jail. Remember the jail? Nine years I walked past the jail to get to school down Second Street. Barbara came from the other side because she was on Fifth Street. Then they added on to the jail and that was the big building out on Second Street. And then they decided, we're going to build a new jail in the industrial park. If I had known this was a topic tonight, I should have looked at the deed to find out, did the county pay Hamilton Township taxpayers for the land that is the jail? Because I I don't know that off top of my head. So then they get brainy ideas at the county and they do a great big expansion to the jail and they're renting out state prisoners and there's like a like maybe as much as 900 to a thousand is the capacity. So now you're being told, and I've deliberately taken the time so you have some kind of an idea because none of you were here with what I'm talking about when Barbara and I were here. Now the county wants to do something else. What in God's name would become of that great big lockup facility? Would we suddenly get harbor fields over here so we could put the under 18 accused I don't I don't know what word to use the accused the juveniles who are accused who are incarcerated are we going to now park them over right next to our ACIT right next to special services right next to H school. No, you need not to be backed into a corner and told, "We're only giving you two weeks or six weeks or whatever." Look at what she's saying about the county municipal court. Look what she's saying over and over and over again. And you people, some of you, one of you maybe, tried to get out of it. And I still hear on talk radio saying, "And if you don't like it, you can get out." No, you can't because the administrative office of the court, as Ken can verify, if the administrative office of the court doesn't agree to let you out, you're stuck. And there's only nine of the 23 towns that are in it. So, watch out we don't get another pig in a poke because Hamilton is deadent against the Anor State Hospital becoming the county or the statewide lockup or whatever they want to put over there. They're dead set against it. This half, Carl, you and I and Richie and Eric, we are in district five of the freeholders. I believe Andrew is district three, which is Thelma and Tracy's representative. So, we need all these voices to make sure we're not going to get another pig and a poke shoved down our throats because the government seems to do whatever they want. But, god forbid if a developer is trying to do something, they go through all kinds of hoops and maybe never get it done. So, that's the best thing I can tell you about the last a lot of years of the You're in agreement, Barbara. you're so far you're in agreement. Nelson's a little further behind because he didn't live in town all the all the nine years of Maze Landing School that Barbara and I did. So what's going to happen to it is is the issue and what are we going to allow to happen? Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good evening. My name is uh Nathan Lewis. I came back here once I retired from the Marine Corps. 20 plus years active duty. Standing here in front of you of a cons of a veteran's concern. Couple years ago. >> You don't have to move. Is somebody having a problem hearing me? I can always sound. >> I do. [laughter] >> I do. >> Here. Come on. I want I got to aim it now. Come on. >> All right. As a matter as a matter of fact, can you say your name again, sir? >> Nathaniel. >> I can hear you. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> Hear about a veteran's concern. A couple years ago, um, I went and applied for a veterans vendor's license, was told that the plan was going to happen rather quickly. A year went by. I turned in the paperwork. A week later, I was called to come and take my picture. I was told it'll be him. Year later, I go in and I'm told, "Oh, I gave it to you." So, I asked, "Is this some type of tracking mechanism, credentials shown, something, a log book taken to this happen?" Didn't trust me, I've never lost one thing in my entire life. So with that uh ended up talking with uh Mr. Campbell and uh pretty much he handled it in a week's time. I like to thank Mr. Campbell. I like to thank Mr. Geraldo as well because they both made contact with me and got back to me. As far as what uh Mr. was told he was told that the machine was broken for two years. So how many veterans went stood there and was told yeah we gave it to you. Sounds to me like that person shouldn't have a job. Period. I know what it is to stand and defend. You don't just tell oh yeah I got to go to lunch because that's how I feel. I also called Mr. No, left a message. Never got a phone call back. I know what it is to be in harm's way. I'm sorry. You I'm standing here for real and if this is how we're going to be treated as veterans, where we supposed to go? Where's the veterans advocate I'm supposed to pick up the phone and call to say, "Hey, I'm having a problem." Mr. Bob Campbell took care of it along with Mr. Guerilla who called me on Friday and said, "I got a brand new machine. Going to have people getting spun up on it. I'm going to be the first one to get this vendor's license. I don't feel I should get that vendor's license first. I think all those other veterans who have been waiting and got nothing yet should get it." But he was adamant about it. So he said he's going to call me back when it gets done. The problem I have is with people in a place that are occupying space and not being proactive. That's a problem. Anybody here got voted in. So that's a lot. Didn't come in to try to have an attitude, but I didn't get the option to defend. I did it because that's what I wanted to do. So everybody in here could have an opinion and have a good attitude or have a bad attitude and just run their mouth whenever they feel like it. They're supposed to be taking care of each other. At least that's what I was taught. Not after retiring. Let me make a break right here. I'd like to congratulate that officer right there. That's one of my recruits because after I retired from the Marine Corps, also retired from law enforcement. So again, what is it? I wasn't smart enough not to keep giving, but I get nothing back in return for people who sit in the spot and don't give back. Don't pick up the phone. So, I'll just leave it at that. Thank you very much. And want my number, I'll give it to you. I'm easy to find. Half of Hamilton Township knows it. Thank you. Thank you. Evening. Uh Nelson Gascoll, 508 Farragate Avenue. Um being the youngest of the group here, I didn't move here till 1958, but my grandparents were here long before that. Um I just want to talk about a couple things. First of all, congratulate Eric. Uh he's been a friend of mine for a long time and he's a good person. He'll be good for the community. uh on Woods Landing. Uh I was the mayor when the uh they came to us and um wanted to build the development and they've been a great asset to uh the township of Hamilton since they went there and I'm sure they will continue with uh any improvements they want to make and additions they need to make. Um I want to address a little bit what uh Commissioner uh Parker talked about a little bit. I'm not so sure. I I didn't quite like what he said about taking over. I think there's a whole plan to take over our township police and our rescue squad and all that. And we have one of the finest departments in the state. Uh they've been for a long long time been a great police department. I think we need to uh be very careful of going into a county situation like that, a whole group like that. There's no need for that. We have great dispatchers. Our police for years have been the best around. So, I think we have to be very careful considering a county uh police force or whatever they want to do. So, um I just want to congratulate everyone. I wish everybody a merry Christmas and a happy new year. >> Thank you, Mayor. >> Jason Hell, 7611 Road. Just want to congratulate Mr. Mr. Aken. Um and I I get to go to a lot of township meetings. I I have to say Hamilton Township is one of the the best that I get to go to because um it it's it's a well-run township people and it speaks to the quality of the people on the on the on the committee and the quality of the people that help put them there. Um I also was compelled just because I'm I'm from the way section of Hamilton Township to just give a little bit of a history lesson. So, the Weaimoth tract, it's an old, it's an old historic name for what, uh, now we call Mispa, um, Falsome, um, Weimoth Township and and the southern end of Hamilton Township. So, that was part of the old iron industry. So, the Weimoth tract and the Weimoth Fire Company, that's that's that historical name. So, that's why some people get that confused. Um, but if you ever go to the Wayoth Furnace, there's little nice little plaque cards. But, yeah, I just want to congratulate Mr. Aken and thank you all for your service. >> Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? [laughter] >> Actually, >> I just want to congratulate >> you. You state your name. >> Yeah. [laughter] Greg Samron, uh, Maize Landing. I think I'm I'm still under Dan Daniels Law. I'm not going to [laughter] give you my address, but I just wanted to congratulate uh, Eric. And I think key point like Mrs. Gaylord brought up that I don't care if you're a D and R or whatever. It's about this township and it's about us. So, you guys all have to work together and do what's right for the township. And I think that's very important. And I'm glad that Eric brought that up. I'm glad that Mrs. Gayler brought it up as well. So, congratulations. I wish everybody the best of luck. >> Thank you, Greg. >> Thanks, Chief. Anybody else? Going once. going twice. I have a motion to motion to close. Got a motion. >> Second. >> Got a second. All in favor? >> I >> We have a motion to to adjurnn. >> So move. >> Second. >> I have a motion. I have a second. All those in favor? I >> I